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AlunB
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Re: Full tilt players to be paid in full?
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September 24, 2012, 02:54:27 PM »
Quote from: Simon Galloway on September 23, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Watched all of em. Shockingly bad interviews. Would love to have seen Frost and Paxman tag-team this one.
I think Paxman (even if briefed on the situation) would have been entertaining but ultimately even more frustrating viewing.
Anyone with a modicum or restraint can bat back those kind of interviewers these days. They are just theatre. Even footballers are sufficiently media trained to deal with them. Or he could simply get up and walk out. He doesn't have to be there remember. How many politicians do you see on newsnight these days? Exactly.
I think the interviewer adopted the correct style for this situation. Respectful, serious and friendly. You want the interviewee to feel comfortable, to trust you and to open up.
But yeah some if not most of the questions were just awful. Rambling, long and closed questions allowing Howard to just say whatever he wanted. And the lack of follow-up was just dreadful. Some huge open goals were missed.
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Re: Full tilt players to be paid in full?
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September 24, 2012, 07:10:30 PM »
Today, PokerStars sent out a press release in which they stated that:
"PokerStars has been working with regulators in all relevant jurisdictions to ensure that repayment is conducted in strict compliance with local regulatory requirements that ensure the security of player accounts and confirmation of the rightful ownership of those accounts."
The method of repayment/access to Full Tilt Poker depends on your jurisdiction:
All former non-US FTP players: When Full Tilt Poker re-launches during the first week of November, non-US Full Tilt Poker players will have access to their accounts.
France, Spain, Denmark, Estonia, Belgium: Former Full Tilt players will be repaid via their respective PokerStars platform. Players will 'pair' a PokerStars account with their Full Tilt account, allowing them to withdraw or use their balances on the licensed PokerStars site.
Italy: PokerStars is currently working to determine the appropriate process to ensure compliance with local regulations.
USA: the repayment of US players will be through a remission process to be administered by the US Government.
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Re: Full tilt players to be paid in full?
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September 24, 2012, 08:04:39 PM »
Quote from: AlunB on September 24, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: Simon Galloway on September 23, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Watched all of em. Shockingly bad interviews. Would love to have seen Frost and Paxman tag-team this one.
I think Paxman (even if briefed on the situation) would have been entertaining but ultimately even more frustrating viewing.
Anyone with a modicum or restraint can bat back those kind of interviewers these days. They are just theatre. Even footballers are sufficiently media trained to deal with them. Or he could simply get up and walk out. He doesn't have to be there remember. How many politicians do you see on newsnight these days? Exactly.
I think the interviewer adopted the correct style for this situation. Respectful, serious and friendly. You want the interviewee to feel comfortable, to trust you and to open up.
But yeah some if not most of the questions were just awful. Rambling, long and closed questions allowing Howard to just say whatever he wanted. And the lack of follow-up was just dreadful. Some huge open goals were missed.
Quote from: AlunB on September 24, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: Simon Galloway on September 23, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Watched all of em. Shockingly bad interviews. Would love to have seen Frost and Paxman tag-team this one.
I think Paxman (even if briefed on the situation) would have been entertaining but ultimately even more frustrating viewing.
Anyone with a modicum or restraint can bat back those kind of interviewers these days. They are just theatre. Even footballers are sufficiently media trained to deal with them. Or he could simply get up and walk out. He doesn't have to be there remember. How many politicians do you see on newsnight these days? Exactly.
I think the interviewer adopted the correct style for this situation. Respectful, serious and friendly. You want the interviewee to feel comfortable, to trust you and to open up.
But yeah some if not most of the questions were just awful. Rambling, long and closed questions allowing Howard to just say whatever he wanted. And the lack of follow-up was just dreadful.
Some huge open goals were missed.
such as?
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Simon Galloway
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Re: Full tilt players to be paid in full?
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September 24, 2012, 08:09:18 PM »
Such as why did people take/award dividends when they knew the money wasn't theirs to take?
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AlunB
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Re: Full tilt players to be paid in full?
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September 24, 2012, 09:34:37 PM »
Quote from: ACE2M on September 24, 2012, 08:04:39 PM
Quote from: AlunB on September 24, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: Simon Galloway on September 23, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Watched all of em. Shockingly bad interviews. Would love to have seen Frost and Paxman tag-team this one.
I think Paxman (even if briefed on the situation) would have been entertaining but ultimately even more frustrating viewing.
Anyone with a modicum or restraint can bat back those kind of interviewers these days. They are just theatre. Even footballers are sufficiently media trained to deal with them. Or he could simply get up and walk out. He doesn't have to be there remember. How many politicians do you see on newsnight these days? Exactly.
I think the interviewer adopted the correct style for this situation. Respectful, serious and friendly. You want the interviewee to feel comfortable, to trust you and to open up.
But yeah some if not most of the questions were just awful. Rambling, long and closed questions allowing Howard to just say whatever he wanted. And the lack of follow-up was just dreadful. Some huge open goals were missed.
Quote from: AlunB on September 24, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: Simon Galloway on September 23, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Watched all of em. Shockingly bad interviews. Would love to have seen Frost and Paxman tag-team this one.
I think Paxman (even if briefed on the situation) would have been entertaining but ultimately even more frustrating viewing.
Anyone with a modicum or restraint can bat back those kind of interviewers these days. They are just theatre. Even footballers are sufficiently media trained to deal with them. Or he could simply get up and walk out. He doesn't have to be there remember. How many politicians do you see on newsnight these days? Exactly.
I think the interviewer adopted the correct style for this situation. Respectful, serious and friendly. You want the interviewee to feel comfortable, to trust you and to open up.
But yeah some if not most of the questions were just awful. Rambling, long and closed questions allowing Howard to just say whatever he wanted. And the lack of follow-up was just dreadful.
Some huge open goals were missed.
such as?
Not sure of the point of this question.
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SuuPRlim
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Re: Full tilt players to be paid in full?
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September 24, 2012, 11:31:38 PM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on September 20, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: DMorgan on September 20, 2012, 05:00:56 AM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on September 19, 2012, 03:37:14 PM
I actually think (and have thought for a while) that Lederer prolly wasn't complicate in the illegal stuff at FTP, but that he (being quite a savvy/smart guy) had a pretty decent inkling something suspect was going on but didn't act on those suspicions. I'd like to think the hundreds of thousands of dollars p/m he was making weren't the reason he chose to ignore the concerns but I think we'd all be quite naive to think that didn't play a part.
Chris Ferguson's role in all this is something I'd really like to hear more about, I always felt like he was more innocent than the others BUT HL kinda implying he had a much more hands on role within the company than he did, which is interesting.
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Given that there is still a civil lawsuit pending against him and with the knowledge that all of this is going to come out anyway when Bitar goes on trial, he has very little incentive to lie in this interview.
Lederer is involved in a $443m fraud in USA. He is on the hook for assests totalling $43m which feds have traced to stolen money and Bitar could get life in prison. Also Howard's rep is in tatters and he will be lucky if he can ever enter a casino with any credibility again. In fact he will prob get the odd slap from disgruntled/drunk poker players for the rest of his days. Thus there is massive incentive to lie at every turn and the constant lies will be like machine gun fire. To think there is no lying here is quite cute and innocent.
Yh, I am pretty sure he's told a lot of lies, I just actually do think that he didn't set out on a mission to do this, i think he's guilty of realising it was happening and counting the paychecks instead of stopping it. Chairman of a company doesn't take any interest in the finances? Give me a break Howard lol
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jgcblack
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Re: Full tilt players to be paid in full?
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September 24, 2012, 11:48:06 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on September 24, 2012, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on September 20, 2012, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: DMorgan on September 20, 2012, 05:00:56 AM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on September 19, 2012, 03:37:14 PM
I actually think (and have thought for a while) that Lederer prolly wasn't complicate in the illegal stuff at FTP, but that he (being quite a savvy/smart guy) had a pretty decent inkling something suspect was going on but didn't act on those suspicions. I'd like to think the hundreds of thousands of dollars p/m he was making weren't the reason he chose to ignore the concerns but I think we'd all be quite naive to think that didn't play a part.
Chris Ferguson's role in all this is something I'd really like to hear more about, I always felt like he was more innocent than the others BUT HL kinda implying he had a much more hands on role within the company than he did, which is interesting.
+1
Given that there is still a civil lawsuit pending against him and with the knowledge that all of this is going to come out anyway when Bitar goes on trial, he has very little incentive to lie in this interview.
Lederer is involved in a $443m fraud in USA. He is on the hook for assests totalling $43m which feds have traced to stolen money and Bitar could get life in prison. Also Howard's rep is in tatters and he will be lucky if he can ever enter a casino with any credibility again. In fact he will prob get the odd slap from disgruntled/drunk poker players for the rest of his days. Thus there is massive incentive to lie at every turn and the constant lies will be like machine gun fire. To think there is no lying here is quite cute and innocent.
Yh, I am pretty sure he's told a lot of lies, I just actually do think that he didn't set out on a mission to do this, i think he's guilty of realising it was happening and counting the paychecks instead of stopping it. Chairman of a company doesn't take any interest in the finances? Give me a break Howard lol
doesn't take any interest or fears its too good to be true and doesn't ask the right questions..
It's got to be a lot easier to stick your head in the sand than to fly to Ireland to really work it all out.
obv everyone thinks they're invincible in this instance.
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Re: Full tilt players to be paid in full?
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September 25, 2012, 04:20:12 AM »
Don't necessarily agree with all the accusations but people are funny and so full of hate...
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September 25, 2012, 02:23:39 PM »
Haha amazing. Lederer Gangnam Style!
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September 25, 2012, 02:34:55 PM »
Love serious stuff. Took him a while to get that one up tho
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October 01, 2012, 11:49:33 PM »
The 2 plus 2 pokercast with Lederer on is very good
http://pokercast.twoplustwo.com/listen_and_browse.php
Lederer talks for 3 hours with very few I don't knows. I think it is better than the pokernews ones by some way.
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The Gus Bus is the new face of FTP, this popped into my inbox an hour ago:
GUS HANSEN WILL RETURN AS THE FACE OF FULL TILT POKER
“The Great Dane” becomes re-launched site’s first brand ambassador
DUBLIN – October 2, 2012 – FullTiltPoker.com today announced that international poker star and tournament legend Gus Hansen will return as brand ambassador for the site, which
plans to re-open for real-money poker on November 6, 2012.
In August, PokerStars obtained the assets of Full Tilt Poker and committed to reimburse Full Tilt Poker customers outside the U.S. whose accounts have been inaccessible since the previous management closed the site in June 2011.
Full Tilt Poker will offer real-money poker games and tournaments globally, with the exception of the U.S., France, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Estonia and Belgium. Full Tilt Poker’s customers in the rest of the world can soon look forward to accessing their accounts and playing on the re-launched site, confident that they are supported by PokerStars’ history of integrity combined with Full Tilt Poker’s track record of delivering the highest quality online poker experience.
Hansen, a poker icon and four-time WPT champion, already boasts career tournament earnings of nearly $11.2 million and is widely considered to be one of the best all-around players in the world - whether it be large tournaments, live cash games or online. As a former Full Tilt Pro, Hansen, 38, is excited to be returning to one of the world’s leading poker brands.
He said: "I’m very excited to represent the industry’s most authentic poker brand. Full Tilt Poker has the best games, most innovative software and the strongest poker community; to me this feels like coming home.”
"Gus is one of the best-known and most respected names in the poker community," said Sarne Lightman, the newly-appointed Head of Marketing at Full Tilt Poker. "Gus has always embodied the best characteristics of the Full Tilt Poker brand and we are thrilled to have him return as an ambassador.”
“Expect plenty more news in the comings weeks,” states Lightman. “More international pros, exciting launch promotions and the return of Full Tilt Poker as the world’s most innovative poker site.”
Players can start playing on Full Tilt Poker from November, 6 2012
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Quote from: dino1980 on October 02, 2012, 05:10:25 PM
The Gus Bus is the new face of FTP, this popped into my inbox an hour ago:
GUS HANSEN WILL RETURN AS THE FACE OF FULL TILT POKER
“The Great Dane” becomes re-launched site’s first brand ambassador
DUBLIN – October 2, 2012 – FullTiltPoker.com today announced that international poker star and tournament legend Gus Hansen will return as brand ambassador for the site, which
plans to re-open for real-money poker on November 6, 2012.
In August, PokerStars obtained the assets of Full Tilt Poker and committed to reimburse Full Tilt Poker customers outside the U.S. whose accounts have been inaccessible since the previous mainagement closed the site in June 2011.
Full Tilt Poker will offer real-money poker games and tournaments globally, with the exception of the U.S., France, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Estonia and Belgium. Full Tilt Poker’s customers in the rest of the world can soon look forward to accessing their accounts and playing on the re-launched site, confident that they are supported by PokerStars’ history of integrity combined with Full Tilt Poker’s track record of delivering the highest quality online poker experience.
Hansen, a poker icon and four-time WPT champion, already boasts career tournament earnings of nearly $11.2 million and is widely considered to be one of the best all-around players in the world - whether it be large tournaments, live cash games or online. As a former Full Tilt Pro, Hansen, 38, is excited to be returning to one of the world’s leading poker brands.
He said: "I’m very excited to represent the industry’s most authentic poker brand. Full Tilt Poker has the best games, most innovative software and the strongest poker community; to me this feels like coming home.”
"Gus is one of the best-known and most respected names in the poker community," said Sarne Lightman, the newly-appointed Head of Marketing at Full Tilt Poker. "Gus has always embodied the best characteristics of the Full Tilt Poker brand and we are thrilled to have him return as an ambassador.”
“Expect plenty more news in the comings weeks,” states Lightman. “More international pros, exciting launch promotions and the return of Full Tilt Poker as the world’s most innovative poker site.”
Players can start playing on Full Tilt Poker from November, 6 2012
Do pokerstars really want this sort of thing being said?
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