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« on: May 03, 2012, 09:04:25 PM »

I give you magic sunglasses that let you see every player’s hand, but in return, you will have the nut low every time and will never win at showdown. You enter the Main Event and no one will catch on during this tournament. What is the probability you final table? Probability you get 2nd place?
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 03:08:07 AM »

Can I copy Phil Galfond's answer?  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 03:12:00 AM »

1) 100%
2) 100% I guess seeing as it's impossible to win
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 04:12:57 AM »

There was a well known player from Birmingham who had a pair of "said glasses" about 15 years ago lol, got barred from the Vic for using them. The main reason why you cant play kalooki with poker cards in a casino now. Magic Ink FTL
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 01:54:10 PM »

If i don't final, I'm an idiot.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2012, 02:45:33 PM »

Are people failing to realize that despite knowing someone's hole cards you could put the maximum pressure on people and they may still call with their 3/4th pair...?

I can see some Darvin Moon type just spazzing one time you set him all in when he has 1010 on AK9 or something silly... and he just goes "well if you've got it son, you've got it....." and pressed teh call button!


Huh?


Would you rather know what they have or what they are thinking???
(i'm thinking the latter)
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 03:59:43 PM »

Would you rather know what they have or what they are thinking???
(i'm thinking the latter)

Really? Lets play HU, you can have access to my internal monologue and i'll have access to your hole cards and we'll see how we each do! You'll quickly learn that I think the valet is hot, and will realise I get back pain playing poker sometimes in the meantime I'll every pot when you can't beat K high Tongue

It's less about being able to bluff people of pots like when they have TT, you can see they have TT and just not play the hand, you can win every pre-flop hand where someone isn't dealt anything good and as long as people dont flop pairs you'll prolly take the majority of post-flop hands down.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2012, 04:07:16 PM »

Would you rather know what they have or what they are thinking???
(i'm thinking the latter)

Really? Lets play HU, you can have access to my internal monologue and i'll have access to your hole cards and we'll see how we each do! You'll quickly learn that I think the valet is hot, and will realise I get back pain playing poker sometimes in the meantime I'll every pot when you can't beat K high Tongue

It's less about being able to bluff people of pots like when they have TT, you can see they have TT and just not play the hand, you can win every pre-flop hand where someone isn't dealt anything good and as long as people dont flop pairs you'll prolly take the majority of post-flop hands down.

You could certainly apply the pressure but i'm not sure how long we'd get away with it. Some people will eventually realise you've never been to showdown and start playing back. And even though we can see they've put us in with a crap hand we can't call them as we can't win at showdown. I know you stipulated they'd never catch on. I assume they're not catching on to us being able to see cards. Most players will catch on to someone bullying a table.

And there'll be times when the rest of the table is just getting dealt hands and there's not much you can do.

And there's all the cold deck scenarios such as when we might get AA v KK that we can't get any value from.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2012, 04:22:13 PM »

100% and 100% unless in the case of some horrible blowup

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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 04:24:45 PM »

Then heads up grind them down and lump the net on yourself to come 2nd.

ez gmae
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 04:31:01 PM »

Would you rather know what they have or what they are thinking???
(i'm thinking the latter)

Really? Lets play HU, you can have access to my internal monologue and i'll have access to your hole cards and we'll see how we each do! You'll quickly learn that I think the valet is hot, and will realise I get back pain playing poker sometimes in the meantime I'll every pot when you can't beat K high Tongue


Wiiiii, I play live poker like L'il Dave (but without the back issues).
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2012, 04:39:21 PM »

You could certainly apply the pressure but i'm not sure how long we'd get away with it. Some people will eventually realise you've never been to showdown and start playing back. And even though we can see they've put us in with a crap hand we can't call them as we can't win at showdown. I know you stipulated they'd never catch on. I assume they're not catching on to us being able to see cards. Most players will catch on to someone bullying a table.

And there'll be times when the rest of the table is just getting dealt hands and there's not much you can do.

And there's all the cold deck scenarios such as when we might get AA v KK that we can't get any value from.

Play back how? Start re-bluffing? Calling more? that's fine they cant do it everytime, if they start taking 40% of the pots from us we;re still chipping up! We can even start playing tight, there is literally no way they can beat us.

As for Coolers we'll never be in one cos we'll never have the best hand, so either we're dealt two blank cards every hand or if we have AA it means someone will make a better hand at some point, in which case if we get dealt anything better than K - high we should open muck it,
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 05:06:59 PM »

You would be very suprised how easy people fold  when you tell em you know what they have. Try it live sometime and they even fold face up Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2012, 05:18:35 PM »


2) 100% I guess seeing as it's impossible to win

just go for the bluffcall on the river
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2012, 05:25:19 PM »

I think you are all overestimating your opponents in the main event.

The chances you make the final are way lower than 100%.

You only have be wrong once with an allin and you're out.
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