$2k scoop spot

[Dubai]

People are funny. You've got Trigg, Chris Bram, Jamie Sykes and lildave, who are 4 of the best players in the world, telling someone that their thinking in a pretty basic spot is wrong, and they don't consider for 1 second that maybe they should consider changing their mind. Then someone decides to lol agree with him.

taking levelling to the next level

[action man]

People are funny. You've got Trigg, Chris Bram, Jamie Sykes and lildave, who are 4 of the best players in the world, telling someone that their thinking in a pretty basic spot is wrong, and they don't consider for 1 second that maybe they should consider changing their mind. Then someone decides to lol agree with him.

taking levelling to the next level

hahaha

[Keylek]

villian dependent Keylek. This guy wasnt spew at all, he was solid and had been for the 3 hours previous. I thought it much more likely for him to barrell off flop and turn at least  than go crazy if we raise the flop. I imagine him to expect me to be floating this flop a large % of the time, down the streets i would be looking to get called by Ax Jx type hands. If we raise the flop it puts him in a bit of a coffin with his Ax and Jx hands and he might hero fold these as my image was very solid at the time also.

I agree with quite a bit of this, really interested to hear other opinions also, so am going to wait a bit... And by spew I don't obviously really mean spew, to him you may be repping pretty much a nothing and it might just seem like free chips to him, even if both of you have been playing snug. I guess maybe your image isnt right for it and maybe kirbynator is tighter than average sicko reg, i don't know these things

[bobby1]

Aaron Brunskill ‏@aaron1867
Just remind me not to play poker with students, they have no clue.

I think you meant 'talk' rather than 'play'  , but as a student I like to think his attitude doesn't mirror the majority of us

As far as my thoughts on PHA go; I like the fact that this forum isn't so huge that PHA isn't completely subdivided into game type and then by stakes (as it is with 2p2) meaning that you can end up with a lot of good players with different experiences of poker being encouraged to think outside of their 'comfort zone' (preferred/normal game type). As far as people posting on hands where they have little experience of the games or stakes I think that its a good thing (provided its approached with an open mind). What I mean is that people being able to post their thoughts on a hand that they may not be "qualified" to comment on and have someone critique their thought process (PHAA?) can be as good a way for them (or others reading) to learn as any and creates some of the most interesting discussions imo. Obviously in this case Aaron has not approached the thread with an open mind, blindly dismissing advice from some far more skilled and experienced players but really the only person this hurts is himself

Thats a good post imo

[pleno1]

again, it was me copying his tweet lol.

[DMorgan]

Still got love for the Sheffield grinders though

x

[discomonkey]

out of curiosity aaron... would you be 4betting preflop for value or as a bluff, given that you have to be doing one or the other???

[pleno1]

out of curiosity aaron... would you be 4betting preflop for value or as a bluff, given that you have to be doing one or the other???

whilst this is usually true there are definitely spots where i would 4bet aj pre flop with the intention of folding to a 5bet but not intending to get aq/aq, jj+ to fold.

[prettygreen]

I'm with Aaron. You guys obviously have no clue if you thinks its not optimal to re raise preflop. You are playing AJ nit knowing where you stand. You shouldn't be letting him bluff you with something like 72o because thats what he has 90% of the time

[Ragz]

I'd put kirby on TT, but either way river looks like snap fold to me.

[pleno1]

I'm with Aaron. You guys obviously have no clue if you thinks its not optimal to re raise preflop. You are playing AJ nit knowing where you stand. You shouldn't be letting him bluff you with something like 72o because thats what he has 90% of the time

so instead we should raise and make him fold his inferior hands and continue with hands that will usually dominate us whilst not being able to use our positional advantage and play against a range that we believe we are infrnt of and dominate most of his bluffing range.

this is really really 2009/basic sutff that should be in the learning to win board rather than an analysis of high stake mtt hand.

[action man]

I'm with Aaron. You guys obviously have no clue if you thinks its not optimal to re raise preflop. You are playing AJ nit knowing where you stand. You shouldn't be letting him bluff you with something like 72o because thats what he has 90% of the time

not even a semi good level attempt

[DMorgan]

Don't post results please either way - thread should be left to fade into the mists, still shrouded in mystery imo

[prettygreen]

Wtf is level?

Its obvious in high stakes that players ever have a goid hand. Always raising and re raising with rubbish. You only have to watch the tv programmes to know that

[Pinchop73]

Waw ^^. Maybe not a level alert!

I like this thread (from a psychological point of view) simply because a moron (who I'm amazed can actually even read let alone type) has instigated some incredibly rare posts from some of the most intelligent players around, whom normally never ever take the time to post.

Well played Aaron, well played.

p.s. Kirby announced on 2p2 he was going to quit poker after this exact tournie (he could only muster 11th, needed 8th to breakeven in SCOOP) until FTP was back online. Not that it matters, just sayin'.