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« on: May 19, 2012, 01:27:17 PM »

Spent a bit of time looking at this and have decided that I want to take a long term position against Facebook but what is the best way to do it given that I understand this needs to be a medium term position.  Am I correct in thinking spreadbetting is probably not the best medium for this kind of time period because I would have to keep rolling over my position and paying margin?  What about put options and how would I go about buying them and what kind of timescale would I be looking at?  Could I buy a put option that vests in a couple of years for example?  Bear in mind whilst I have a good understanding of company fundamentals etc I am pretty much a complete novice when it comes to execution here.
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 01:28:11 PM »

Are you mad??
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 01:37:14 PM »

Are you mad??

Of course a side bet would be the easiest way to do this ;-)
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 01:39:22 PM »

Put Options you can get through a broker, but require more paper work. Margin accounts are probably the best way to do this (Spreadbetting and CFDs). Try having a look on a couple of websites that offer this service, like CityIndex for example, and see margin requirements. In most cases, it is simply a case of selecting short, rather than buy, and your dealer would do the rest.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 01:40:48 PM »

Put Options you can get through a broker, but require more paper work. Margin accounts are probably the best way to do this (Spreadbetting and CFDs). Try having a look on a couple of websites that offer this service, like CityIndex for example, and see margin requirements. In most cases, it is simply a case of selecting short, rather than buy, and your dealer would do the rest.

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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 04:51:41 PM »

Put Options you can get through a broker, but require more paper work. Margin accounts are probably the best way to do this (Spreadbetting and CFDs). Try having a look on a couple of websites that offer this service, like CityIndex for example, and see margin requirements. In most cases, it is simply a case of selecting short, rather than buy, and your dealer would do the rest.

One way... a lot of the shares will go to preferred investors and at a premium, very very long term you will do well.  Is there a particular reason you want to go for FB shares? why not look at some of the companies that are healthy acquisitions for FB long term, there are a few of them that I can advise you on. You can invest in these companies via Second Markets.  So when they are acquired you'll gain FB stock at the preferred investor rate?

Is it forever shares you're looking at...? and how much are you looking to invest? PM me if you don't want the information to be public... And I'll give you some impartial advice pro bono...

 
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 11:05:50 AM »

Put Options you can get through a broker, but require more paper work. Margin accounts are probably the best way to do this (Spreadbetting and CFDs). Try having a look on a couple of websites that offer this service, like CityIndex for example, and see margin requirements. In most cases, it is simply a case of selecting short, rather than buy, and your dealer would do the rest.

One way... a lot of the shares will go to preferred investors and at a premium, very very long term you will do well.  Is there a particular reason you want to go for FB shares? why not look at some of the companies that are healthy acquisitions for FB long term, there are a few of them that I can advise you on. You can invest in these companies via Second Markets.  So when they are acquired you'll gain FB stock at the preferred investor rate?

Is it forever shares you're looking at...? and how much are you looking to invest? PM me if you don't want the information to be public... And I'll give you some impartial advice pro bono...

 

He wants to short-sell Facebook, not buy it!
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 06:00:29 PM »

Put Options you can get through a broker, but require more paper work. Margin accounts are probably the best way to do this (Spreadbetting and CFDs). Try having a look on a couple of websites that offer this service, like CityIndex for example, and see margin requirements. In most cases, it is simply a case of selecting short, rather than buy, and your dealer would do the rest.

One way... a lot of the shares will go to preferred investors and at a premium, very very long term you will do well.  Is there a particular reason you want to go for FB shares? why not look at some of the companies that are healthy acquisitions for FB long term, there are a few of them that I can advise you on. You can invest in these companies via Second Markets.  So when they are acquired you'll gain FB stock at the preferred investor rate?

Is it forever shares you're looking at...? and how much are you looking to invest? PM me if you don't want the information to be public... And I'll give you some impartial advice pro bono...

 

He wants to short-sell Facebook, not buy it!

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2012, 03:53:20 PM »

Down $5 today already....guess I missed this boat.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2012, 08:01:44 PM »

red

Spread betting has a huge advantage if your winning because there is zero tax on any gains.

Yes you probably would have to roll the position but you can take longer positions at a slightly higher price.

Big advantage you can work on leverage but remember to remain responsible in this position because if it goes against

you a margin call will have to be paid, if not they can sell your position without notice.

Its a great tool and zero tax yummy.
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