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« Reply #75 on: June 29, 2012, 04:23:09 AM »

I obviously wasn't saying DTD are 'silly' you run the best club in the country. I think you should be adaptable to change though. The GPS seems to have become very popular very quickly and I think it will only become bigger and better. Its forcing players like myself to pick one or the other, and I'm sure theres hundreds of others like myself who would more than likely play both if they were on seperate weekends. Would it really be that much of a problem to change it to the 2nd week of the month? I think you would still get all the regulars and all the extra people that play the GPS on the first weekend instead. As you said, this isn't a 'tour' as such, and tour dates are scheduled months in advance so I would imagine it would be alot harder for them to change dates around. I also think 500 individual entries is a bit optimistic. I hope I'm wrong of course. Plus with the GPS being every 2-3 months and DTD having the big 500k gtd at the end of August I think alot of the people on the fence between which one to go to will pick the GPS.
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« Reply #76 on: June 29, 2012, 04:35:07 AM »

I obviously wasn't saying DTD are 'silly' you run the best club in the country. I think you should be adaptable to change though. The GPS seems to have become very popular very quickly and I think it will only become bigger and better. Its forcing players like myself to pick one or the other, and I'm sure theres hundreds of others like myself who would more than likely play both if they were on seperate weekends. Would it really be that much of a problem to change it to the 2nd week of the month? I think you would still get all the regulars and all the extra people that play the GPS on the first weekend instead. As you said, this isn't a 'tour' as such, and tour dates are scheduled months in advance so I would imagine it would be alot harder for them to change dates around. I also think 500 individual entries is a bit optimistic. I hope I'm wrong of course. Plus with the GPS being every 2-3 months and DTD having the big 500k gtd at the end of August I think alot of the people on the fence between which one to go to will pick the GPS.
You've won a seat to the gps already haven't you ya little monkey. Smiley
I reckon a lot of people sitting on the fence will choose Dtd and that will get more runners.
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« Reply #77 on: June 29, 2012, 04:50:40 AM »

nah I haven't mate, but I played both the B'ham and the London GPS's and thoroughly enjoyed them both. The 1 hour clock structure and 25k stack is so so good. Guarantee has been smashed at each leg, 146k in Birmingham, 232k in London, not sure about Edinburgh but the 2 winners chopped for £30k each so easily over 100k prizepool.
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« Reply #78 on: June 29, 2012, 06:04:27 AM »

TL900, let me tell you how I actually work in practice with date setting.

I personally speak to Rank about their GUKPT dates before their season is announced, I also personally speak to PokerStars before their UKIPT dates. The  general rule is that DTD can only do decent buy in big GTE events (deepstacks and monte carlos) on week 1 of each month and that GUKIPT and UKIPT have the pick of the other 3 weeks of each month, this seems fair to me as they are actual 'tours' and we are just 1 venue. If GUKIPT or UKIPT could not avoid a week 1, we would of course move to accommodate, I would describe our relationship with both of these tours as excellent, we already hold a UKIPT at DTD and we have even suggested in the past that we would like to hold a GUKIPT in Nottingham, since Rank did not have a casino here unti they recently purchased the Gala casinos.

In 2012 Genting announced their new tour and ONLY clashed with DTD Deepstacks, avoiding all GUKPT and UKIPT dates, out of their 6 tour dates, 5 were on week 1. So, the situation we are in is that we cannot move our deepstacks all to week 2, because we will then clash with GUKPT or UKIPT, and the same goes for a week 3 or week 4 regular monthly event. I don't have a problem with Genting for clashing their dates with DTD,  as i said, we are not actually a tour, we are just a card room in 1 venue, and am I sure they don't expect us to stop running our events either. Genting have never had any dialogue with me so I can't comment on how they choose their dates.

I hope this information reassures any poker players that DTD does not clash its monthly Deepstacks with the GPS, there is simply not enough weeks in a year for everyones events not to clash. Yes, the GPS had done really well in its first year and I see it getting stronger with a huge company like Genting investing in a poker tour. I am hoping to play some of these GPS events myself as it would be good to see my old mates the Hendon Mob!

I agree with you, we may not get 500 players, probabaly not. However, we like to set our bar higher than we think we will probably achieve and offering big ROI is our brand and helps us in other ways in the long run.

More choice = better for poker players

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« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2012, 07:36:02 AM »

Well said Simon. I've told Sinclair not to let Tom Langley in anymore Smiley
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« Reply #80 on: June 29, 2012, 08:52:25 AM »

DTD running their 'main event' on the first weekend every month means everyone knows well in advance what dates they can plan to play at DTD.

Makes complete sense not to move it around, and if Genting want to go head-to-head with DTD, then that's going to lower numbers to both events. DTD moving their regular event some months is only going to lower their numbers, and not just that month, but for the other months too as players lose confidence in the event being on the same weekend each month.
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« Reply #81 on: June 29, 2012, 01:29:11 PM »

Hi Guys

This week ALL events are strictly FREEZEOUTS!

Tonight

At 8pm we have a Turbo Super 50 with at 8pm with £10,000 guaranteed!!!
Plus a cheeky £15 Freezeout also at 8pm.

Saturday

At 5pm there's £20,000 guaranteed in our Incredible £100!
Plus a £25 Freezeout at 8pm.

Good Luck to those playing Smiley

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« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2012, 02:54:25 PM »

Hi Ralph - yes - our prize pool payouts will be changing in a matter of days to;

- Min cash 2 x
- 10% of the field paid
- Flatter payouts up top

Hi Gemini - noone is saying it is the end of re-entry at DTD, we are just trying some freezouts. Just because we tweak the format of our comps doesn't mean anything is actually set in stone, we like to/have to mix things up and often return to previous ideas and concepts, for example, we are planning a bigger Six Max monthly comp at the moment, as we havn't done one of our £250 six max comps for a good few months

I asked Tighty to put up the polls on re-entry and payouts, good feedback, thx Smiley From a purely PERSONAL point of view on these 2 subjects, I would actually vote for "no re-entry" and a "steeper payout structure", FWIW.

Cheers Rob


Thanks Rob, glad to hear that the re entries are not gone forever. The way I am running over the last three months I need all the re entries I can get. Flopping quads is no good, still bust out.

Even better is the news that you are amending the payout structures. I believe it will have a positive effect on numbers over the long term. I hope so because DTD is a great club at the forefront of UK poker so long may it continue.


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« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2012, 03:39:30 PM »

Well said Simon. I've told Sinclair not to let Tom Langley in anymore Smiley

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« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2012, 03:44:03 PM »

fwiw, it may look like im bashing DTD but I'm really not. I love the place just as much as you guys, but I also love playing tournaments and want to play as many high value tournaments as possible. Thats why I asked the question. As I can only play one now for obvious reasons.
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« Reply #85 on: June 29, 2012, 03:53:24 PM »

fwiw, it may look like im bashing DTD but I'm really not. I love the place just as much as you guys, but I also love playing tournaments and want to play as many high value tournaments as possible. Thats why I asked the question. As I can only play one now for obvious reasons.

Everyone can have their opinion and air it on here.  I'm sure DTD appreciate the feedback. 
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« Reply #86 on: June 29, 2012, 04:21:20 PM »

Well said Simon. I've told Sinclair not to let Tom Langley in anymore Smiley

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« Reply #87 on: June 29, 2012, 04:43:32 PM »

Just a quick reminder that DTD have an experimental Friday night comp on tonight at 8pm, the Super 50 "Turbo" (20 min clock instead of 30), freezout only, £10k GTE, info here

http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/events/super-50-turbo/3762


If you play it, would love to know what you think...
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« Reply #88 on: June 29, 2012, 05:27:15 PM »

Hi Guys

I know Simon gave you a little taster but here are the full details about our NEW August £200 Deepstack!

Win a Golden Chip if you qualify online Wink

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/new-200-deepstack---100000-guaranteed/2248

Any questions you know where we are!

Cheers Nicola
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« Reply #89 on: June 29, 2012, 09:04:49 PM »

Hi everyone, is the £200 aug tourney DEFF no re-entry ? i know its been said a few times it is BUT in the dusktilldawn  site tourney results section it says  it is re entry.
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