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Question: Your preference for DTD Payout Structures
    Keep existing DTD Payout structure (i.e. min cash 1.5x buy-in and pay 10% field of field paid) - 25 (22.3%)
Flatten payouts, specifically 1st and 2nd to enable higher min cash (2x buy-in) - 58 (51.8%)
Flatten payouts MORE to enable BOTH higher min cash (2x buy-in) AND pay higher % of field (e.g. pay 12%) - 29 (25.9%)
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2012, 11:14:25 AM »

DTD have asked for the poll to go up Ralph


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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2012, 11:20:49 AM »

I have voted for 2. One thing that strikes me every time I read the updates is I wouldn't play too many comps  when a good finish resulted in so little reward in relation to the buy in.

Maybe I am missing something here too but it has to be in DTD benefit for the players that cash at the bottom end of the pay scale to get more cash. The top prize will still be attractive but you will benefit from more reinvestment from players that cashed at the bottom end that at the moment prob don't win much after exes for playing well for a long time to get a small cash.

 
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2012, 11:24:00 AM »

Could you consider changing the poll?  I am for flattening the structure at the top, but that is only to flatten payouts at or near the final table.  I am very much against changing the min cash.  Upping the min cash will just increase the painful stalling phase of tournaments.  
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2012, 11:36:00 AM »

Option #2, though I don't see it happening - DTD clearly love their headline figures.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2012, 11:59:21 AM »

I don't care for min cash 1.01x or 3x, although I am all for creating longer bubbles.

Just flatten final tables from 30%17%%10% top 3 or whatever it is in 1000 runner MTTs.


It's rare for finals to have average >15 bigs deep anyway so flipping for huge buy-in pay jumps is not ideal for majority of players. Only benefits the headlines and Rastafish.



So just flatten final table pay outs, not even jumps obv just not as absurd as they are
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2012, 12:08:32 PM »

dont pay more people

thats all id ask
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2012, 12:10:09 PM »

Could you consider changing the poll?  I am for flattening the structure at the top, but that is only to flatten payouts at or near the final table.  I am very much against changing the min cash.  Upping the min cash will just increase the painful stalling phase of tournaments.  
This makes most sense to me but what do I know? Only ever see final tables on live streams/tellybox thingy.
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2012, 12:15:03 PM »

It needs flattening for reasons I think I've posted before in another thread. This is not gonna be a fashionable view, but having thought about it some more I think paying a few more players will be better for everyone too. I snap-voted for the middle option tho, dunno if I can change it.

James I remember that post, but couldn't find it

Any idea where it was posted?

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http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56711.msg1505485#msg1505485

edit: not actually especially relevant now I read it back, but I make the point at the end that a flatter payout structure will reduce players' tendency to deal. It also should reduce the icm penalty for getting in a showdown and therefore incentivise looser play, more showdowns and bustouts and therefore deeper, more entertaining poker. Thirdly, as someone mentioned in the thread, it is better for the club the more evenly the prize money is distributed as more players will get money to reinvest in future tournaments/cups of tea.
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2012, 12:31:28 PM »

keep it as it is.
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2012, 01:30:39 PM »

Could you consider changing the poll?  I am for flattening the structure at the top, but that is only to flatten payouts at or near the final table.  I am very much against changing the min cash.  Upping the min cash will just increase the painful stalling phase of tournaments. 

Agree broadly with this.
I don't mind tweaking the min-cash up a little, but not to the extent of taking too much money from the final.
Flatten the top 8 places though.
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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2012, 01:44:30 PM »

I have mentioned my views in previous threads, really hope this one is implemented if good feedback comes in.
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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2012, 01:48:45 PM »

dont pay more people

thats all id ask

correct, play ftw
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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2012, 01:50:36 PM »

Kepp as is pls

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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2012, 01:57:04 PM »

(UPDATE FROM PREVIOUS POST ON ANOTHER TOPIC)

From a customer point of view, for tournaments that are 2-5 days, making only 1.2 on investment is sometimes disappointing. Only as it doesn't cover expenses - Petrol, Hotels, Food, Drinks, and occasional spews on roulette or that stupid Pharaohs Fortune!

People nit up stupidly and ruins the play and momentum of the tournament.. This payment structure is pretty standard across the European board, but this is why play is so slow pre and post bubble. People want to make there money back. For a tournament over 2 Days, I don't see a problem with min cash being 2X. I think the bubble and play before will last longer, but the better players left will take advantage of it, leaving the nitty guys less space later on in the torney. It would give more play from 2 tables to the final. No 3BigBlind limp/fold player on the final and no guy with 9bigs set mining with deuces, who wants to ladder. And keep laddering. And then ladder somemore.

The important thing to remember is, nowadays the majority of players either travel from a distance (unable or difficult to drive back home) to make tournaments at DTD or are back/staked and sold a % of themselves to even play atall.
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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2012, 03:56:30 PM »

In the ukipt I min cashed. Not only did I receive more than I would from a dtd min cash I cashed in the first place.

I've always thought dtd was too top heavy for my liking.
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