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Question: Your preference for DTD Payout Structures
    Keep existing DTD Payout structure (i.e. min cash 1.5x buy-in and pay 10% field of field paid) - 25 (22.3%)
Flatten payouts, specifically 1st and 2nd to enable higher min cash (2x buy-in) - 58 (51.8%)
Flatten payouts MORE to enable BOTH higher min cash (2x buy-in) AND pay higher % of field (e.g. pay 12%) - 29 (25.9%)
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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2012, 04:00:32 PM »

And just remembered another payout thing.

Tournament is guaranteed equiv to 1,000 players.

Tournament gets 500 entries. Currently pays top 50.

IMO it should pay top 100. Based on how many players were needed to make up the prize pool. Another example of making it top heavy.
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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2012, 04:10:07 PM »

In the ukipt I min cashed. Not only did I receive more than I would from a dtd min cash I cashed in the first place.

I've always thought dtd was too top heavy for my liking.

The UKIPT got a bit of stick for being short up top  Cheesy

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« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2012, 08:45:05 PM »

Paying 10% is a good number.

A min-cash should be 2x the buy in.

The nut solution is to keep a steep payout structure (maybe a little less steep) , but allow deals. Nobody seems to want to bring deals back which is a shame.

I'm amazed that people can't see deals are more important in bigger comps than smaller comps- the current policy of allowing people to deal when there's £500 on the line but not allowing them to deal for £15000 seems very silly to me.
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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2012, 09:23:54 PM »

I think it's a little more complicated than the 3 voting options. 10% is the perfect pay out percentage, any higher and it will be too flat (like UKIPT).  1.5 times buy in as a pay out at the bottom end is fine.  Where the slight increase should occur is when you get in the top 5%, rather than only getting the significant jump once on the final table.  The pay out structure should take into account the number of players, with fields over 600 you could introduce a cap on the top prizes, the big downside to this is the lower top prize may not look as appealing.
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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2012, 12:05:35 PM »

Found this really difficult to vote on as there are other issues to take into consideration and for me it goes hand in hand with the 'no deals' policy.

I think min cash at 1.5 is fine but have no problem with some flattening at the top to see more significant ladder jumps lower down.

If deals were allowed (my personal preference) then I think the current structure is fine and would encourage it being kept heavy up top.

With no deals being allowed, it does led to 'stodgey' play in the later stages so this being the case, I think I can see a benefit to flattening the payout structure up top.
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2012, 12:25:11 PM »

Re the no deals, if it's done privately no one can stop you. 
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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2012, 03:06:04 PM »

After being in various NO DEAL tournaments. It is stressed that if DTD here of a 'Outside' deal being made, play will resume, but the player(s) will be permanent barred from the club.

Yes, the deal will go ahead as agreed they cannot stop that, but you will not be allowed into the club again.
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2012, 03:35:52 PM »

As a travelling player I would like 2 see double your buy I'n for mini cash . Eg played black belt at dtd last year 2 days expenses came 33 got 133 pound was I think 750 I'n comp so really these online comps they put on live beware of payout structure before you play them .
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2012, 03:50:02 PM »

After being in various NO DEAL tournaments. It is stressed that if DTD here of a 'Outside' deal being made, play will resume, but the player(s) will be permanent barred from the club.

Yes, the deal will go ahead as agreed they cannot stop that, but you will not be allowed into the club again.
Did you hear (note not here) this from a member of Dtd direct Tommy? I know you ain't one to make stuff up but I will do everyone a favour and email them details of a deal involving some people I would notions see banning Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2012, 04:03:48 PM »

After being in various NO DEAL tournaments. It is stressed that if DTD here of a 'Outside' deal being made, play will resume, but the player(s) will be permanent barred from the club.

Yes, the deal will go ahead as agreed they cannot stop that, but you will not be allowed into the club again.
Did you hear (note not here) this from a member of Dtd direct Tommy? I know you ain't one to make stuff up but I will do everyone a favour and email them details of a deal involving some people I would notions see banning Smiley

Yes buddy, it was from Simon (TD) directly on the 500 Deepstack final.
I don't know if this rule has changed, as the 500 was the first torney that implemented to NO DEAL policy.
But was definatly made clear before play began on the final. Which, if you gona make NO DEALS, is a fair enough point to make.
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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2012, 04:10:35 PM »

Why would 2/3 players do a deal that suits the Players talk about it with risk of bieng banned from the best cardroom I'n uk . I'm sure dtd know it goes on
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« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2012, 05:06:12 PM »

After being in various NO DEAL tournaments. It is stressed that if DTD here of a 'Outside' deal being made, play will resume, but the player(s) will be permanent barred from the club.

Yes, the deal will go ahead as agreed they cannot stop that, but you will not be allowed into the club again.
Did you hear (note not here) this from a member of Dtd direct Tommy? I know you ain't one to make stuff up but I will do everyone a favour and email them details of a deal involving some people I would notions see banning Smiley

Yes buddy, it was from Simon (TD) directly on the 500 Deepstack final.
I don't know if this rule has changed, as the 500 was the first torney that implemented to NO DEAL policy.
But was definatly made clear before play began on the final. Which, if you gona make NO DEALS, is a fair enough point to make.
After being in various NO DEAL tournaments. It is stressed that if DTD here of a 'Outside' deal being made, play will resume, but the player(s) will be permanent barred from the club.

Yes, the deal will go ahead as agreed they cannot stop that, but you will not be allowed into the club again.
This is true..... It was said directly to me 1st Huh??? Then the remaining players
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« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2012, 05:34:09 PM »

After being in various NO DEAL tournaments. It is stressed that if DTD here of a 'Outside' deal being made, play will resume, but the player(s) will be permanent barred from the club.

Yes, the deal will go ahead as agreed they cannot stop that, but you will not be allowed into the club again.
Did you hear (note not here) this from a member of Dtd direct Tommy? I know you ain't one to make stuff up but I will do everyone a favour and email them details of a deal involving some people I would notions see banning Smiley

Yes buddy, it was from Simon (TD) directly on the 500 Deepstack final.
I don't know if this rule has changed, as the 500 was the first torney that implemented to NO DEAL policy.
But was definatly made clear before play began on the final. Which, if you gona make NO DEALS, is a fair enough point to make.
After being in various NO DEAL tournaments. It is stressed that if DTD here of a 'Outside' deal being made, play will resume, but the player(s) will be permanent barred from the club.

Yes, the deal will go ahead as agreed they cannot stop that, but you will not be allowed into the club again.
This is true..... It was said directly to me 1st Huh??? Then the remaining players
Wow you little Welsh Wizard. You should never do deals anyway with your ability. Have to say I'm a big fan of Dtd but threatening to ban people is a bit much. I guess this was the time you won Ceri and because you dealt the previous month.
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« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2012, 05:44:14 PM »

Personally i think if you get to the cash stages,it would be nice to get enough to cover expenses of travel and hotel. So its option 2 for me
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« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2012, 05:48:51 PM »

I like it as it is tbh, but can imagine its fairly intense in the tournaments with no deals.

All comps have fairly big jumps, but thats what Poker players like generally. The only problem is without deals, it means you're normally playing heads up for 10k+. With the fact that whatever comp it is, its going to be fairly shooty by this point (not DTDs fault by any means), it means you're just playing a turbo HUSnG for alot of money.

That said, Id love to be in a position where this mattered lol
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