Uhl be alright. A ladies event blog, by Vicky Coren

[neeko]

Link plz

http://www.victoriacoren.com/main/blog/archive/the_guy_from_the_ladies_event

With help from google

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Link plz

http://www.victoriacoren.com/main/blog/archive/the_guy_from_the_ladies_event

With help from google

One of the most hypocritical things I've ever read.

Have your say and then lock the thread eh? WP Vicky.

[Dewi_cool]

I'm sorry for starting this thread, pretty obvious Tom is suffering from PMT, so I have decided to close the thread, no more replies thx 

[Woodsey]

I'm sorry for starting this thread, pretty obvious Tom is suffering from PMT, so I have decided to close the thread, no more replies thx 

 

[MPOWER]

Lets finish with a good reason why railing ladies only poker is the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttZeH7zNU8M

Regards

M

[Dewi_cool]

go back to your fridge k

[JaffaCake]

What about a straight, white, able bodied woman, a professional poker player no less. kicking up a fuss about some nonentity of a kid playing some no-account poker tournament?

Double standards.

lol i'm starting to think you're just trolling now!  did she really kick up a fuss about him (or any of the other 15 or so guys) playing the tournament? No. she commented on the fact that the aggressive stance he took spoiled the atmosphere for many of the other participants who choose not to play in regular events and see this one as a bit of a special occasion. 

Did she really kick up a fuss about him? Have you read the piece? She absolutely crucified him. In public.

of course i read the piece.  did you read the rest of my sentence?

fyp as Vicky's post seems pretty clearly to do with his attitude and the spirit he was playing it in rather than just the fact that he was a man playing the ladies event

So u think she would have the same attitude in normal tournaments to men (and women) who are surly at the table and don't make the experience fun for others?

[JaffaCake]

Seems to me that the tournament has a tradition of being played in a sisterly spirit and that the invasion by a handful of males intent on proving a point is breaking that tradition.

Vicky can do no wrong in my eyes and although I think she's being over sensitive here she's entitled to write about it and to slant it how she chooses. The reported reaction of the guy is pretty poor, as is that of the tournament floor person.

Frankly, if you want to be a mould breaker Mr Uhl, you need a substantially thicker skin.

I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't really give a shit tbh, it's never easy to think up interesting columns to write. I've written plenty of 'opinion' pieces in the past that have an opinion different to my own

[pleno1]

If she wasnt a pro and getting her entry paid for her then is synpathize more. This guy with a very poor Hendon MLB paid 1k out f his own money.

[mondatoo]

If she wasnt a pro and getting her entry paid for her then is synpathize more. This guy with a very poor Hendon MLB paid 1k out f his own money.

LOL, Pads has been herbified.

[Dry em]

Who writes these "laws" that mean they can't legally run a women only tournament?

If need be have an identical men only tournament on the same day. How can that be discriminating to anyone given the other 100 events are all open for anyone to enter?

[MLHMLH]

This is how well I run. Vicky Coren takes exception to a man playing the ladies event and manages to make him look like an idiot and writes about it! I take exception to the man playing on my day 2 table who bust 2 ladies. After the 2nd knockout when he apologises for knocking her out I ask him if he is ashamed of himself. He replies and says that he is playing for his very ill wife and makes me look like a tool.

Question is, does it matter WHY any of these men are playing?

[MLHMLH]

For the record the Venetian did not allow any men in their ladies tournament.  Some tried to register but they were told that if they did play the event they would be banned from playing at the Venetian thereafter. That seemed to work!

[Jon MW]

What about a straight, white, able bodied woman, a professional poker player no less. kicking up a fuss about some nonentity of a kid playing some no-account poker tournament?

Double standards.

lol i'm starting to think you're just trolling now!  did she really kick up a fuss about him (or any of the other 15 or so guys) playing the tournament? No. she commented on the fact that the aggressive stance he took spoiled the atmosphere for many of the other participants who choose not to play in regular events and see this one as a bit of a special occasion. 

Did she really kick up a fuss about him? Have you read the piece? She absolutely crucified him. In public.

of course i read the piece.  did you read the rest of my sentence?

fyp as Vicky's post seems pretty clearly to do with his attitude and the spirit he was playing it in rather than just the fact that he was a man playing the ladies event

So u think she would have the same attitude in normal tournaments to men (and women) who are surly at the table and don't make the experience fun for others?

Well given that in the past she has written at least one blog post about someone whose attitude she disapproved of at an EPT then there is a fair chance - but obviously the point was that the Ladies event is different, and most men see that it's different - and that's why you don't get hundreds of them entering.

Seems to me that the tournament has a tradition of being played in a sisterly spirit and that the invasion by a handful of males intent on proving a point is breaking that tradition.

Vicky can do no wrong in my eyes and although I think she's being over sensitive here she's entitled to write about it and to slant it how she chooses. The reported reaction of the guy is pretty poor, as is that of the tournament floor person.

Frankly, if you want to be a mould breaker Mr Uhl, you need a substantially thicker skin.

I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't really give a shit tbh, it's never easy to think up interesting columns to write. I've written plenty of 'opinion' pieces in the past that have an opinion different to my own

It's a blog - a look down the previous entries shows sometimes she's written 1 entry in a month and other times 8 - i.e. it's pretty clear she just writes when she feels she has something to write about.

[RED-DOG]

Who writes these "laws" that mean they can't legally run a women only tournament?

If need be have an identical men only tournament on the same day. How can that be discriminating to anyone given the other 100 events are all open for anyone to enter?

Did you hold an identical men only tournament on the same day? No.

Did anyone else? No.

Could you force someone to? No.

Would it make any difference if you did? No.

Look at it this way. If you were to advertise a job for men only on the grounds that there are hundreds of other jobs women can apply for, it would still be discriminatory and it would still be against the law. Thats because women have fought long and hard to end this discrimination, and rightly so. I take my hat off to them.

So why, after such a hard fought battle to gain equality, fought I might add on the premise that women are just as capable as men, would they think it's OK to start discriminating the other way.

Consider this. Women now have the right to a job as say, a soldier, or a fire-fighter.

For a woman to have a job as a fire-fighter, separate sleeping, washing, and changing facilities have to be installed in the crew quarters. Then, the rest of her male colleges have to moderate there behaviour to accommodate her. No more swearing, walking around in their underpants, telling rude, jokes or watching blue movies while waiting for a shout.

Well that's fine by me. I'm all for equality, but not when those same women fire fighters and soldiers can enter a poker tournament that is off limits to the men they work along side.

There's a principle here. Surely you can see that?