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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2012, 07:35:29 PM »
On a ft like this, are we not better off not just jamming ever sb/btn/co/hj with any playable hands instead of taking a spot with the maximum opportunity for someone to wake up with a hand? I think its a +ev jam, but would rather jam the next time its folded round to me in later position. its not like we don't have fold equity with 6-7bb anyways.
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2012, 07:38:29 PM »
Final table ?
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2012, 07:39:24 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on July 09, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
Final table ?

Saw blind levels and presumed. My bad. Still think my thoughts are somewhat correct.
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2012, 09:04:13 PM »
Quote from: rfgqqabc on July 09, 2012, 07:35:29 PM
On a ft like this, are we not better off not just jamming ever sb/btn/co/hj with any playable hands instead of taking a spot with the maximum opportunity for someone to wake up with a hand? I think its a +ev jam, but would rather jam the next time its folded round to me in later position. its not like we don't have fold equity with 6-7bb anyways.

Or we could take all these spots as well as shoving this UTG and make even more money. Turning down clear +ev spots like this is only serving to reduce our roi.
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2012, 09:29:14 PM »
Always going in here with any pair for me, especially when people are folding QQ...

Maybe you could have waited for someone to flop a royal flush, and then started betting into them?
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2012, 09:53:07 PM »
its a deffo shove, even this nit gets it in there
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2012, 10:40:28 PM »
Quote from: Longy on July 09, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on July 09, 2012, 07:35:29 PM
On a ft like this, are we not better off not just jamming ever sb/btn/co/hj with any playable hands instead of taking a spot with the maximum opportunity for someone to wake up with a hand? I think its a +ev jam, but would rather jam the next time its folded round to me in later position. its not like we don't have fold equity with 6-7bb anyways.

Or we could take all these spots as well as shoving this UTG and make even more money. Turning down clear +ev spots like this is only serving to reduce our roi.





Shit ton of variance in these spots tho, if its FT, how bad can a fold be when we have a big edge and a marginally +ev decision.
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2012, 11:01:49 PM »
When we have 10bbs how big can our edge be? I am pretty sure our edge becomes smaller when we start passing up spots like this, which is a clear shove.

If we have to take a bit of variance to get a 20+bb stack where we actually can start pushing our "edge" more effectively than so be it.

Basically yes i am saying a fold is pretty bad.
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2012, 11:03:47 PM »
Quote from: rfgqqabc on July 09, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
Saw blind levels and presumed. My bad. Still think my thoughts are somewhat correct.

They aren't I'm afraid. 55 is virtually a fistpump jam. If we can shove 22, JTs etc, then we should be quite happy about shipping fives.
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2012, 11:17:34 PM »
Quote from: MC on July 09, 2012, 11:03:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on July 09, 2012, 07:39:24 PM
Saw blind levels and presumed. My bad. Still think my thoughts are somewhat correct.

They aren't I'm afraid. 55 is virtually a fistpump jam. If we can shove 22, JTs etc, then we should be quite happy about shipping fives.

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