Marc Wright aka dean23price/railtard1 still scamming July 2012

[sovietsong]

How the hell does Marc Wright manage to juggle being a high stakes pro & his media career?  Was he grinding when out in the jungle?

[skolsuper]

Seems to me like a blip in an otherwise pretty successful reformation by Marc. His quitting gambling altogether over this would be a pretty bad idea imo given how much money he can expect to make (legitimately) if he continues grinding. Probs feels hard done by cashing for 97k and only getting 5-10k himself or whatever but by the sounds of it he entered into these agreements so should honour them, move on and think twice about it before agreeing swaps in the future.

However totally agree with Simon that the fobbing off is disappointing (although tbh not surprising).



edited after moderation on thread to remove reference

[claypole]

Seems to me like a blip in an otherwise pretty successful reformation by Marc. His quitting gambling altogether over this would be a pretty bad idea imo given how much money he can expect to make (legitimately) if he continues grinding. Probs feels hard done by cashing for 97k and only getting 5-10k himself or whatever but by the sounds of it he entered into these agreements so should honour them, move on and think twice about it before agreeing swaps in the future.

However totally agree with Simon that the fobbing off is disappointing (although tbh not surprising).

Was refraining from posting; but love Keys, wins thread on every level  - I'd like thread to be locked until Marc responds, all for open healthy debate, however these types of threads often turn into ill informed trolling and that's nt useful until Marc at least has an opportunity to reply - he's a bit otherwise engaged at moment


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[railtard1]

Thanks keys. Just seen this. Playing main, so obviously it's tough to reply properly.
We never swapped a full 5%. I wouldn't of because of the amount I had of myself.
There is 100% no way I swapped 5%.
I will post properly when I am back in room and Would like the thread locked untill I can read the allegations properly.

[railtard1]

Hi.
The thread is currently blocked so wanted to post here so all is clear.
I went to EPT berlin last minute. Patrick (pleno) reccomended to me lewis hunter had a spare bed and me and lewis got tlking. He defo seemed genuine, nice guy. We met for the first time in germany.
We got on real good straight away, played an online session together and spoke about poker / life / women etc etc.
We briefly discussed a swap that night, but nothing concrete.
The next morrning (the morning before the torny) lewis suggested a 5% swap.
For people that know me well, know that i rarely swap (i often sell, but rarely swap). I neither accepted this swap nor declined it, and we never came to any particular agreement, it was all a bit cloudy tbh (poor communication on both our parts for sure). The fact was that i only had a small piece of myself and was some on MU etc so there is NO WAY i would of swapped 5% with ANYONE, especially someone whom i have never seen play poker and someone whom i know nothing about there game.
We went into the main event with nothing concrete agreed (obviously this was down to poor communication on both parts).
Lewis busted the torny early and i finished day 1 with a really big stack.
Nothing was said about the % untill the end of day 3, where i said he would have 5% of what i made from the torny. This was the only possible swap i would of done.
As i said NO SWAP was agreed, but lewis was genuine and he had in his mind that we had a swap of some kind. I want to make it clear that me and lewis did get on very well and i would of classed him as a mate after knowing him for a very little period of time.

Coming home from germany straight away after busting in 7th was due to f tilt obviously and didnt even think about giving him a "drink" from the score.
We spoke online after germany and i snap sent him some money that i owed towards the room / room sevrice etc (i sent this money on the day he asked for it np, and im sure he will say so). He asked for the % (5% in his mind). I wanted to ask the opinion of some others before agreeing an mount with him, and in the end i asked him if we should get someone to mediate. I spoke to pleno about it and he said in lewis's mind we did have a 5% swap, and i do believe that he thought this, but as i said, i would of NO WAY agreed to a full 5% swap.

Im sorry if people on here wana take sides etc, but this was between me and lewis and i feel he should of just waited untill i finished in vegas then we could of sorted it properly.
putting it on here cant help in anyway.

Will answer any questions that are constructive. Im going to contact lewis away from the public eye in an attempt to resolve this fast.

I have sold MANY packages in blonde over the past 2 years and won alot for blonde members. I have allways paid as fast as possible and im sure regular buyers would vouch for that. I paid out investers alot of money after EPT berlin and have had large online scores too. I am friends with alot of blonde memebers and i feel i have acted honestly and made sure everything has been perfect to the best of my ability.
I am really disapointed by this thread and i could do without it while playing the wsop main.

marc

[tikay]

Threads Merged, & unlocked.

[railtard1]

There is some plain stupid responses on here from people like the camel, but im used to it from him.

As i said in my full reply above, i NEVER swap LARGE piece in big tornys i never have in my life, so why would i start in berlin? and especially with someone i have clue about there game and when i didnt have much of myself. People wanting to jump on sides i think its stupid as it can in no way be constructive.

But whatever, as i said i would of done some swap with lewis, but NEVER 5% of me, for 5% of him. We should of made something concrete for sure, and thats both our faults, but going round in circles on here is plain dumb obv.
I tried contacting him on fb, but it looks like he has deleted me, so whatever, im done with it.

finished

[NigDawG]

I mean if u swapped 5% of what u take home after makeup/% sold etc how do you quantify how much of him you have in the deal, assuming he had the score and not you?

I've swapped whilst on makeup deal with a backer and it gets awkward sometimes/cuts into your own % too much, so while I can sympathise with you not intending on swapping out a full 5% of yourself here, it seems poor communication led to this being the deal agreed. Otherwise you freerolled the guy.

[railtard1]

I mean if u swapped 5% of what u take home after makeup/% sold etc how do you quantify how much of him you have in the deal, assuming he had the score and not you?

I've swapped whilst on makeup deal with a backer and it gets awkward sometimes/cuts into your own % too much, so while I can sympathise with you not intending on swapping out a full 5% of yourself here, it seems poor communication led to this being the deal agreed. Otherwise you freerolled the guy.

100% agree with miss communication. Post vegas, i am going to ask 5 people (reputable in the game) to mediate and agree on a resoulution to this matter with lewis.

For the time being, is it possible to change the OP as saying "marc wright scammed" is pretty far from the truth IMO

[GreekStein]

I mean if u swapped 5% of what u take home after makeup/% sold etc how do you quantify how much of him you have in the deal, assuming he had the score and not you?

I've swapped whilst on makeup deal with a backer and it gets awkward sometimes/cuts into your own % too much, so while I can sympathise with you not intending on swapping out a full 5% of yourself here, it seems poor communication led to this being the deal agreed. Otherwise you freerolled the guy.

100% agree with miss communication. Post vegas, i am going to ask 5 people (reputable in the game) to mediate and agree on a resoulution to this matter with lewis.

For the time being, is it possible to change the OP as saying "marc wright scammed" is pretty far from the truth IMO

the miscommunication seems entirely your fault though marc. It's a lot of money but from what I've seen in the threads if I was arbitrating I'd say you owe him 5%.

[railtard1]

I mean if u swapped 5% of what u take home after makeup/% sold etc how do you quantify how much of him you have in the deal, assuming he had the score and not you?

I've swapped whilst on makeup deal with a backer and it gets awkward sometimes/cuts into your own % too much, so while I can sympathise with you not intending on swapping out a full 5% of yourself here, it seems poor communication led to this being the deal agreed. Otherwise you freerolled the guy.

100% agree with miss communication. Post vegas, i am going to ask 5 people (reputable in the game) to mediate and agree on a resoulution to this matter with lewis.

For the time being, is it possible to change the OP as saying "marc wright scammed" is pretty far from the truth IMO

the miscommunication seems entirely your fault though marc. It's a lot of money but from what I've seen in the threads if I was arbitrating I'd say you owe him 5%.

fwiw, i woudlnt of expected 5% from him.

Someone just told me he is on a real big downswing and this is the reason for his posting at this time which makes sense.

but whatever, obv thats irrelevent

[I KNOW IT]

There is some plain stupid responses on here from people like the camel, but im used to it from him.

As i said in my full reply above, i NEVER swap LARGE piece in big tornys i never have in my life, so why would i start in berlin? and especially with someone i have clue about there game and when i didnt have much of myself. People wanting to jump on sides i think its stupid as it can in no way be constructive.

But whatever, as i said i would of done some swap with lewis, but NEVER 5% of me, for 5% of him. We should of made something concrete for sure, and thats both our faults, but going round in circles on here is plain dumb obv.
I tried contacting him on fb, but it looks like he has deleted me, so whatever, im done with it.

finished

I thought Toby Lewis was a good player, well he has all those flags Herbie loves

Also did The Camel ever pay you for going through his hand histories?

[The Camel]

"Im going to contact lewis away from the public eye in an attempt to resolve this fast."

29 April You were going to "bank tx u the lot tomorrow"

11 May you were going to transfer in installments on stars

15 May You were going to sort it "asap"

30 May You were going to sort it out "tomorrow"

12 June You were going to ship it later tonight when you were grinding

19 June You were going to ship it in an hour.





Now you are going to resolve this "fast".

I'm sure Lewis is reassured.

[The Camel]

I mean if u swapped 5% of what u take home after makeup/% sold etc how do you quantify how much of him you have in the deal, assuming he had the score and not you?

I've swapped whilst on makeup deal with a backer and it gets awkward sometimes/cuts into your own % too much, so while I can sympathise with you not intending on swapping out a full 5% of yourself here, it seems poor communication led to this being the deal agreed. Otherwise you freerolled the guy.

100% agree with miss communication. Post vegas, i am going to ask 5 people (reputable in the game) to mediate and agree on a resoulution to this matter with lewis.

For the time being, is it possible to change the OP as saying "marc wright scammed" is pretty far from the truth IMO

the miscommunication seems entirely your fault though marc. It's a lot of money but from what I've seen in the threads if I was arbitrating I'd say you owe him 5%.

fwiw, i woudlnt of expected 5% from him.

Someone just told me he is on a real big downswing and this is the reason for his posting at this time which makes sense.

but whatever, obv thats irrelevent

These digs against people who question you are really disgusting.

According you, the reason I have a problem with you is because of my size and self image. (I could go and find that pathetic post if I could be bothered)

Now you dig at Lewis because he is "an inferior player" and on "a real big downswing".

He posted because you lied repeatedly about sending the money you owed him.

Just pay the man his money.

[railtard1]

The issue is how much I owe him. There is 100% no way I owe him 5%. That's for sure