Marc Wright aka dean23price/railtard1 still scamming July 2012

[smashedagain]

5 pages ago i made a post that i thought would lock this thread untill next week when me and lewis would have this matter closed away from the forum, but for the last 5 pages people have spoke about the staking board on blonde. Which has little to do with this thread. Do mod's not think it wise to open a seperare flaming threads for the blonde staking thread instead of drag this thread on further? Its my name at the start of the thread, so seems slightly unfair.

No.

A sensible discussion, about important issues.

It can carry on

will remember this for future threads. so in the middle of a DTD thread we can just talk about everything as long as its sensible?

Patrickkkkkkkk.       

[pleno1]

5 pages ago i made a post that i thought would lock this thread untill next week when me and lewis would have this matter closed away from the forum, but for the last 5 pages people have spoke about the staking board on blonde. Which has little to do with this thread. Do mod's not think it wise to open a seperare flaming threads for the blonde staking thread instead of drag this thread on further? Its my name at the start of the thread, so seems slightly unfair.

No.

A sensible discussion, about important issues.

It can carry on

will remember this for future threads. so in the middle of a DTD thread we can just talk about everything as long as its sensible?

Whilst i know what you are saying Marc doesn't sponsor the forum.

gaf? its about forum principles, if you do one thing for one and one thing for another this usually = no forum.

[rfgqqabc]

5 pages ago i made a post that i thought would lock this thread untill next week when me and lewis would have this matter closed away from the forum, but for the last 5 pages people have spoke about the staking board on blonde. Which has little to do with this thread. Do mod's not think it wise to open a seperare flaming threads for the blonde staking thread instead of drag this thread on further? Its my name at the start of the thread, so seems slightly unfair.

No.

A sensible discussion, about important issues.

It can carry on

will remember this for future threads. so in the middle of a DTD thread we can just talk about everything as long as its sensible?

Whilst i know what you are saying Marc doesn't sponsor the forum.

gaf? its about forum principles, if you do one thing for one and one thing for another this usually = no forum.

Forum principles dictate the people who help pay for the forum to run, have specific rights that include exclusive access and advertising rights. Its in the contract. This thread could have been locked, but if we open a new thread every time there is change in specific conversation there just wouldn't be much going on. Threads are best left to organically grow, and whilst it is a little unfair on Marc because of the title, some discussion is somewhat relevant to the topic in hand.

[neeko]

5 pages ago i made a post that i thought would lock this thread untill next week when me and lewis would have this matter closed away from the forum, but for the last 5 pages people have spoke about the staking board on blonde. Which has little to do with this thread. Do mod's not think it wise to open a seperare flaming threads for the blonde staking thread instead of drag this thread on further? Its my name at the start of the thread, so seems slightly unfair.

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No.

A sensible discussion, about important issues.

It can carry on

will remember this for future threads. so in the middle of a DTD thread we can just talk about everything as long as its sensible?

Whilst i know what you are saying Marc doesn't sponsor the forum.

gaf? its about forum principles, if you do one thing for one and one thing for another this usually = no forum.

There would also be no forum if there was no sponsor to pay the bills - double standards are entirely valid

[TightEnd]

I didn't post thinking it was a double standard actually

The discussion had moved onto whether people of possibly less than 100% financial probity should be allowed to use our staking threads. Probably related enough to the original post, in my opinion, and nothing was posted that meant the thread should be locked, or split off. In my opinion.

If the discussion had moved onto which of the Pussycat Dolls we'd bang after six pints of stella, I'd have split the thread off.

[bookiebasher]

I didn't post thinking it was a double standard actually

The discussion had moved onto whether people of possibly less than 100% financial probity should be allowed to use our staking threads. Probably related enough to the original post, in my opinion, and nothing was posted that meant the thread should be locked, or split off. In my opinion.

If the discussion had moved onto which of the Pussycat Dolls we'd bang after six pints of stella, I'd have split the thread off.

lol. You have to love this guy 

[paulhouk03]

I didn't post thinking it was a double standard actually

The discussion had moved onto whether people of possibly less than 100% financial probity should be allowed to use our staking threads. Probably related enough to the original post, in my opinion, and nothing was posted that meant the thread should be locked, or split off. In my opinion.

If the discussion had moved onto which of the Pussycat Dolls we'd bang after six pints of stella, I'd have split the thread off.

surely u would do them all right?

[FUN4FRASER]

5 pages ago i made a post that i thought would lock this thread untill next week when me and lewis would have this matter closed away from the forum, but for the last 5 pages people have spoke about the staking board on blonde. Which has little to do with this thread. Do mod's not think it wise to open a seperare flaming threads for the blonde staking thread instead of drag this thread on further? Its my name at the start of the thread, so seems slightly unfair.

No.

A sensible discussion, about important issues.

It can carry on

will remember this for future threads. so in the middle of a DTD thread we can just talk about everything as long as its sensible?

Pads been drinking Diesel for Breakfast .

[The Camel]

I didn't post thinking it was a double standard actually

The discussion had moved onto whether people of possibly less than 100% financial probity should be allowed to use our staking threads. Probably related enough to the original post, in my opinion, and nothing was posted that meant the thread should be locked, or split off. In my opinion.

If the discussion had moved onto which of the Pussycat Dolls we'd bang after six pints of stella, I'd have split the thread off.

surely u would do them all right?

At my age, probably best to let them do each other and watch.

[pleno1]

If the discussion had moved onto which of the Pussycat Dolls we'd bang after six pints of stella, I'd have split the thread off.

 

[smashedagain]

 

I didn't post thinking it was a double standard actually

The discussion had moved onto whether people of possibly less than 100% financial probity should be allowed to use our staking threads. Probably related enough to the original post, in my opinion, and nothing was posted that meant the thread should be locked, or split off. In my opinion.

If the discussion had moved onto which of the Pussycat Dolls we'd bang after six pints of stella, I'd have split the thread off.

surely u would do them all right?

At my age, probably best to let them do each other and watch.

Very much this

[SuuPRlim]

haha A* Keith once more !

I must be getting really thick skinned/ruined by gambling world but this whole thing really isn't that big of a deal, it's obviously shit and it's tragic when it happens but if you're going to go and enter into multi-figure financial agreements with people you don't know then this sort of thing is going to happen to you, as Keith says it's completely inevitable.

The way I personally conduct my business is I have a network of people who I trust 100% with money dealings, I make regular 4/5figures transactions with them and I don't bat an eyelid, if someone who I don't know/haven't dealt with before comes along and I need to deal with him, I will ALWAYS and I do mean ALWAYS ask if he's dealt with any of my friends before and get a reference from them. I also never assume that one successful deal = 100% trust. Sometimes (despite me double bolding above) I might decide to go ahead without a reference, in these circumstances I am willing to accept the chance of me getting knocked is was higher than it usually is.

Even people on blonde who aren't overly involved in the poker world can still use this system, people on here/fb like me/toby/flushy/dubai/brammer or anyone like us would be (i might be putting words in their mouth but I doubt it) more than willing to vouch/not vouch for people (don't have to say "he's a c**t he did X Y etc, just a question, would you deal with X person, and i'll answer yes or no). I actually get quite a few PMs asking "is X person trustworthy they say they have dealt with you" and people who i deal with regually know they are more than welcome to offer people to reference them to me. This really is the only/best form of policing and it's 30x anything blonde could do/should do.

Personally if I was Lewis I would NEVER have agreed the swap with Marc, all he knew of Marc was his past and didn't know him personally, obviously I know him personally so it's a lilttle different for me - it's still a terrible situation and I'm delighted Lewis is getting paid in full, which is 100% the right thing, but there is a lesson to learn in here.

The problem with these things is the only way to learn is to get knocked once in a while, I know that's horrible and I hate this about the gambling world but I really think its true Like Gouty and Kieth say reputation really is everything.

I'm glad Marc has seen sense and decided to pay up, the positives of this situation is it further re-affirms to marc he can't do this sort of stuff and expect to get away with it, and although it's been a terrible tilting time for lewis he's managed to survive not being out of pocket.  I agree though that Marc's reformation has been way too easy - he should have been fully repaid the last time for a decent period of time and have another good period after that where he has behaved flawlessly before anyone should have even considered trusting him again. I actually like Marc personally, so a little bit of me is pleased for him to have recovered so quickly but from my position within poker I think it sets a dangerous precedent that he has.

[The Camel]

haha A* Keith once more !

I must be getting really thick skinned/ruined by gambling world but this whole thing really isn't that big of a deal, it's obviously shit and it's tragic when it happens but if you're going to go and enter into multi-figure financial agreements with people you don't know then this sort of thing is going to happen to you, as Keith says it's completely inevitable.

The way I personally conduct my business is I have a network of people who I trust 100% with money dealings, I make regular 4/5figures transactions with them and I don't bat an eyelid, if someone who I don't know/haven't dealt with before comes along and I need to deal with him, I will ALWAYS and I do mean ALWAYS ask if he's dealt with any of my friends before and get a reference from them. I also never assume that one successful deal = 100% trust. Sometimes (despite me double bolding above) I might decide to go ahead without a reference, in these circumstances I am willing to accept the chance of me getting knocked is was higher than it usually is.

Even people on blonde who aren't overly involved in the poker world can still use this system, people on here/fb like me/toby/flushy/dubai/brammer or anyone like us would be (i might be putting words in their mouth but I doubt it) more than willing to vouch/not vouch for people (don't have to say "he's a c**t he did X Y etc, just a question, would you deal with X person, and i'll answer yes or no). I actually get quite a few PMs asking "is X person trustworthy they say they have dealt with you" and people who i deal with regually know they are more than welcome to offer people to reference them to me. This really is the only/best form of policing and it's 30x anything blonde could do/should do.

Personally if I was Lewis I would NEVER have agreed the swap with Marc, all he knew of Marc was his past and didn't know him personally, obviously I know him personally so it's a lilttle different for me - it's still a terrible situation and I'm delighted Lewis is getting paid in full, which is 100% the right thing, but there is a lesson to learn in here.

The problem with these things is the only way to learn is to get knocked once in a while, I know that's horrible and I hate this about the gambling world but I really think its true Like Gouty and Kieth say reputation really is everything.

I'm glad Marc has seen sense and decided to pay up, the positives of this situation is it further re-affirms to marc he can't do this sort of stuff and expect to get away with it, and although it's been a terrible tilting time for lewis he's managed to survive not being out of pocket.  I agree though that Marc's reformation has been way too easy - he should have been fully repaid the last time for a decent period of time and have another good period after that where he has behaved flawlessly before anyone should have even considered trusting him again. I actually like Marc personally, so a little bit of me is pleased for him to have recovered so quickly but from my position within poker I think it sets a dangerous precedent that he has.

Post of the thread by 1000 miles.

If I could add one small thing it would be that blondepoker is slightly different to other platforms.

They are a lot of casual, recreational players on here, who are not so savvy when it comes to staking/buying shares.

It's why the Blatch thing hurt so much. Many people invested money thy couldn't afford to lose.

Dubai, Rupert, Flushy can look after themselves, but some people need a little protection sometimes.

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A couple of signs for the not so savvy.

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[SuuPRlim]

Rofl Red-Dog just winning in the background as per

yh agree Keith, I'd like to think that anyone on blonde would feel totally confortable msg'ing me and asking if I could vouch/reference X person, or you, or flushy or anyone who they know knows the person. I use this system to protect myself all the time so I want people to be asking me as well.