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The Baron
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Re: Chess thread
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November 23, 2013, 02:29:06 PM »
Quote from: McGlashan on November 23, 2013, 01:08:36 PM
Baron, here's an article that compares era's and helps put Magnus in perspective. It also includes some play through Queen sac games from Morphy and Fischer.
http://www.businessinsider.com/magnus-carlsen-our-first-post-modern-chess-champion-2013-11
Great article. Appreciated TY.
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Quote from: Tal on November 22, 2013, 02:34:15 PM
"My mistakes didn't happen by themselves"
- Anand
Great quote. To elaborate on that we have this explanation from the previously linked article.
Second, Carlsen is demonstrating one of his most feared qualities, namely his “nettlesomeness,” to use a term coined for this purpose by Ken Regan. Using computer analysis, you can measure which players do the most to cause their opponents to make mistakes. Carlsen has the highest nettlesomeness score by this metric, because his creative moves pressure the other player and open up a lot of room for mistakes. In contrast, a player such as Kramnik plays a high percentage of very accurate moves, and of course he is very strong, but those moves are in some way calmer and they are less likely to induce mistakes in response.
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November 27, 2013, 06:56:37 AM »
Quote from: Tal on November 22, 2013, 11:39:45 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on November 22, 2013, 10:51:13 PM
Was it wise of Carlsen to turn down a draw offer earlier in the final game?
I didn't realise he did. It seems a little inappropriate to decline the offer tbh, knowing that made him the champ. Carlsen commented today he was playing for no complications (read "playing for the draw") but then decided he might be able to win, until it started getting too complicated and he swapped everything off.
MBN to have that kind of control.
It wasn't an explicit offer. Anand repeated, with an implied draw offer, but Carlsen didn't reciprocate.
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November 27, 2013, 07:20:08 AM »
Quote from: MintTrav on November 27, 2013, 06:56:37 AM
Quote from: Tal on November 22, 2013, 11:39:45 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on November 22, 2013, 10:51:13 PM
Was it wise of Carlsen to turn down a draw offer earlier in the final game?
I didn't realise he did. It seems a little inappropriate to decline the offer tbh, knowing that made him the champ. Carlsen commented today he was playing for no complications (read "playing for the draw") but then decided he might be able to win, until it started getting too complicated and he swapped everything off.
MBN to have that kind of control.
It wasn't an explicit offer. Anand repeated, with an implied draw offer, but Carlsen didn't reciprocate.
Oh ok. Sometimes, players repeat just to take them a couple of moves closer to the time control; gives them a little more time to think. You might well be right on this one, though
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November 27, 2013, 11:18:26 PM »
Quote from: McGlashan on November 24, 2013, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Tal on November 22, 2013, 02:34:15 PM
"My mistakes didn't happen by themselves"
- Anand
Great quote. To elaborate on that we have this explanation from the previously linked article.
Second, Carlsen is demonstrating one of his most feared qualities, namely his “nettlesomeness,” to use a term coined for this purpose by Ken Regan. Using computer analysis, you can measure which players do the most to cause their opponents to make mistakes. Carlsen has the highest nettlesomeness score by this metric, because his creative moves pressure the other player and open up a lot of room for mistakes. In contrast, a player such as Kramnik plays a high percentage of very accurate moves, and of course he is very strong, but those moves are in some way calmer and they are less likely to induce mistakes in response.
If like to see them meet in match play. Fascinating stuff.
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November 28, 2013, 02:02:48 AM »
The good news is we might not have to wait long as there's another WC match next year due to catching up on a backlog. Notably Nakamura no.4 in the world is missing.
The full list of candidates competing in March can be found here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2014
along with explanations of how said candidates qualified.
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November 28, 2013, 08:14:20 AM »
Quote from: McGlashan on November 28, 2013, 02:02:48 AM
The good news is we might not have to wait long as there's another WC match next year due to catching up on a backlog. Notably Nakamura no.4 in the world is missing.
The full list of candidates competing in March can be found here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2014
along with explanations of how said candidates qualified.
That's very useful, McGlashan. Thanks.
Yes, it is a reasonable conclusion that Nakamura would have been more of a threat for the title than Svidler, but the host does get to pick a wildcard and that's who they've gone with. There are a dozen players who would have made competitive choices, so someone was always going to lose out. Certainly would have been an argument for Michael Adams, for example, but I think it's fair to say the Russian choice was more likely to be favoured.
Andreikin will have his work cut out and so will Mamedyarov. As we saw last time with Radjabov, as soon as these players smell blood with one person losing a couple in a row, the draw offers stop and the way back becomes horribly tough.
No doubt Aronian and Kramnik will be favourites to get the seat for next year. It will be interesting to see how Anand does, although it seems likely he will be no worse than mid table in that field going into the late rounds. As we saw last time, anything is possible.
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November 28, 2013, 08:16:28 AM »
http://en.chessbase.com/post/chennai-aftermath-the-experts-opine
Some final reviews of the World Championship Match, including from Danny King and one Garry Kasparov.
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November 28, 2013, 08:20:06 AM »
This is an excellent article on oldest and youngest world champs and world number ones in chess:
http://en.chessbase.com/post/maturity-and-majesty
Love a good chess photo, me.
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As the only 2 GM's ranked higher than Anand they will rightly be the favourites, may the best man win.
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November 28, 2013, 03:41:49 PM »
Did you really have to choose that photo of Kramnik?!
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Quote from: Tal on November 28, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
Did you really have to choose that photo of Kramnik?!
On the subject of young number 1's, that is Vlad becoming the highest ranked ELO player in the world at a youthful 20 years of age, a record only surpassed by Magnus (courtesy of Chessbase).
And it's funny
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November 30, 2013, 09:34:59 AM »
Quote from: Tal on November 28, 2013, 08:16:28 AM
http://en.chessbase.com/post/chennai-aftermath-the-experts-opine
Some final reviews of the World Championship Match, including from Danny King and one Garry Kasparov.
I like Giri's article too.
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Click to see full-size image.
What's Spanish for why is this chess player on our football pitch?
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December 01, 2013, 03:07:53 PM »
I reckon Ramos is thinking "As soon as he kicks the ball away, I'm going to wait a couple of seconds and then I'm going to kick him"
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