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Topic: Just how good will the Olympics be? (Read 130672 times)
Acidmouse
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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August 07, 2012, 12:56:19 PM »
GB left out number 9 in the world
so Hayes can be in there to help, i think they only used this tactic in case any other countries played rough and he was protection..
Saying that A Brownlee would have won whatever happened...
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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Don't think there are rules to stop it are there? Can chuck people out for non trying as the badmo players were losing on purpose but I don't think you can do this lad or the cyclists for non trying.
I don't blame this guy at all.
Obviously just obeying team orders - might not get picked for GB again if he disobeys.
I just don't like the idea of having team orders in an Olympic sport.
Apparently it's a new-ish thing for triathlon, it's very unusual for there to be any kind of team in triathlon events, a lot of people don't like it because it's
normally
just down to individuals.
And a lot of people said it wasn't necessary for GB anyway because our front runners are so strong.
But it's just game theory in the end - the only way to stop it would be to ban it, and that might be hard to police.
Single athlete from each country solves the problem.
Single athlete was introduced in cycling as an antidote to GB winning all the medals (worked well...)
All that does is prevent superstars like Hoy competing in some events
I'd rather see 2-3 per team as before
Yeah, I don't actually see it as a problem. Just added tactics & intrigue make it more interesting imo.
I hate it, especially in this event.
I'm assuming no other competitors have a team mate to help them, which gives the Brownlees a huge tactical advantage.
but the other countries can also do this if they so choose?
Let's say GB has number 1 + 2 in the world plus als the number 10 in the world, who happens to hate the 1 and 2.
You leave out number 10 to run a pacemaker?
Hardly the Olympic ethos?
But everybody is competing for Team GB - if they can't participate as a team member then they probably don't deserve a place in the Olympic team either
Not that it's going to happen - that's fairly similar to the triathlon scenario (apart from them not getting on) - nobody is ever going to selfishly compete to get a 9th place when sacrificing their chance and finishing lower could help their team mate win gold.
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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August 07, 2012, 12:58:34 PM »
Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: Josedinho on August 07, 2012, 12:21:28 PM
Don't think there are rules to stop it are there? Can chuck people out for non trying as the badmo players were losing on purpose but I don't think you can do this lad or the cyclists for non trying.
I don't blame this guy at all.
Obviously just obeying team orders - might not get picked for GB again if he disobeys.
I just don't like the idea of having team orders in an Olympic sport.
See where you're coming from but for it to happen we need to get rid of medal tables and competing for countires. If one of the brothers wins and Hayes has helped them do it then GB win a gold and therefore Hayes contributes to a gold medal win and that is an achievement.
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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August 07, 2012, 01:01:29 PM »
Quote from: Jon MW on August 07, 2012, 12:57:06 PM
Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 07, 2012, 12:50:44 PM
Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Tonji on August 07, 2012, 12:43:53 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 07, 2012, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: Tonji on August 07, 2012, 12:37:05 PM
Quote from: Jon MW on August 07, 2012, 12:34:48 PM
Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: Josedinho on August 07, 2012, 12:21:28 PM
Don't think there are rules to stop it are there? Can chuck people out for non trying as the badmo players were losing on purpose but I don't think you can do this lad or the cyclists for non trying.
I don't blame this guy at all.
Obviously just obeying team orders - might not get picked for GB again if he disobeys.
I just don't like the idea of having team orders in an Olympic sport.
Apparently it's a new-ish thing for triathlon, it's very unusual for there to be any kind of team in triathlon events, a lot of people don't like it because it's
normally
just down to individuals.
And a lot of people said it wasn't necessary for GB anyway because our front runners are so strong.
But it's just game theory in the end - the only way to stop it would be to ban it, and that might be hard to police.
Single athlete from each country solves the problem.
Single athlete was introduced in cycling as an antidote to GB winning all the medals (worked well...)
All that does is prevent superstars like Hoy competing in some events
I'd rather see 2-3 per team as before
Yeah, I don't actually see it as a problem. Just added tactics & intrigue make it more interesting imo.
I hate it, especially in this event.
I'm assuming no other competitors have a team mate to help them, which gives the Brownlees a huge tactical advantage.
but the other countries can also do this if they so choose?
Let's say GB has number 1 + 2 in the world plus als the number 10 in the world, who happens to hate the 1 and 2.
You leave out number 10 to run a pacemaker?
Hardly the Olympic ethos?
But everybody is competing for Team GB - if they can't participate as a team member then they probably don't deserve a place in the Olympic team either
Not that it's going to happen - that's fairly similar to the triathlon scenario (apart from them not getting on) - nobody is ever going to selfishly compete to get a 9th place when sacrificing their chance and finishing lower could help their team mate win gold.
I specifically said 10th in the world, because he has a realistic chance for a medal.
If it was 100th in the world or whatever, wouldn't matter so much.
I can't think of a more indivualistic sport than triathalon.
I think athletes should be running/competeing for themselves, not for a team.
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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August 07, 2012, 01:02:33 PM »
but they are running for a team, funded by Team GB lottery funding
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 07, 2012, 12:50:44 PM
Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Tonji on August 07, 2012, 12:43:53 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 07, 2012, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: Tonji on August 07, 2012, 12:37:05 PM
Quote from: Jon MW on August 07, 2012, 12:34:48 PM
Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: Josedinho on August 07, 2012, 12:21:28 PM
Don't think there are rules to stop it are there? Can chuck people out for non trying as the badmo players were losing on purpose but I don't think you can do this lad or the cyclists for non trying.
I don't blame this guy at all.
Obviously just obeying team orders - might not get picked for GB again if he disobeys.
I just don't like the idea of having team orders in an Olympic sport.
Apparently it's a new-ish thing for triathlon, it's very unusual for there to be any kind of team in triathlon events, a lot of people don't like it because it's
normally
just down to individuals.
And a lot of people said it wasn't necessary for GB anyway because our front runners are so strong.
But it's just game theory in the end - the only way to stop it would be to ban it, and that might be hard to police.
Single athlete from each country solves the problem.
Single athlete was introduced in cycling as an antidote to GB winning all the medals (worked well...)
All that does is prevent superstars like Hoy competing in some events
I'd rather see 2-3 per team as before
Yeah, I don't actually see it as a problem. Just added tactics & intrigue make it more interesting imo.
I hate it, especially in this event.
I'm assuming no other competitors have a team mate to help them, which gives the Brownlees a huge tactical advantage.
but the other countries can also do this if they so choose?
Let's say GB has number 1 + 2 in the world plus als the number 10 in the world, who happens to hate the 1 and 2.
You leave out number 10 to run a pacemaker?
Hardly the Olympic ethos?
Don't we already have a thread for negativity?
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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August 07, 2012, 01:06:44 PM »
Now they are suggesting Alistair Brownlee might slow down to allow his brother a chance to get silver.
He'd be risking a "Team GB" gold to try and get his brother a silver.
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 01:06:44 PM
Now they are suggesting Alistair Brownlee might slow down to allow his brother a chance to get silver.
He'd be risking a "Team GB" gold to try and get his brother a silver.
Not a single chance he will slow down 0.0000001's
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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Quote from: Acidmouse on August 07, 2012, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: The Camel on August 07, 2012, 01:06:44 PM
Now they are suggesting Alistair Brownlee might slow down to allow his brother a chance to get silver.
He'd be risking a "Team GB" gold to try and get his brother a silver.
u know them? Not a single chance he will slow down 0.0000001's
I've never heard of them.
Just repeating what the commentator just said.
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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August 07, 2012, 01:08:46 PM »
When did triathlon rules change to allow slipstreaming on a bike ? I thought there had to be a ten metre gap to the bike in front unless you were overtaking,or are the Olympics different.
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August 07, 2012, 01:11:04 PM »
Bring home the bacon to Leeds Brownlee!!! come on...
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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Quote from: Acidmouse on August 07, 2012, 01:11:04 PM
Bring home the bacon to Leeds Brownlee!!! come on...
looking good for him, Gomez looking less strong.
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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Quote from: Dino on August 07, 2012, 01:08:46 PM
When did triathlon rules change to allow slipstreaming on a bike ? I thought there had to be a ten metre gap to the bike in front unless you were overtaking,or are the Olympics different.
Only in the long version is my understanding
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August 07, 2012, 01:18:36 PM »
Terrific stuff that's how the best in the world does it.
Yorkshire moved up in the medal table, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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Re: Just how good will the Olympics be?
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August 07, 2012, 01:22:00 PM »
Alot less comradery between the contestants then I would have imagined.
Hardly any hugs or handshakes at the end.
Must be a cut throat business.
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