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« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2006, 05:57:16 PM »

you are a better player than me, passing KK in a £30 comp!!

Well done that dog.
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« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2006, 06:04:42 PM »

First off Snoops great pass. (Although I still think the pass pre flop woulda been fine - I'm not sure I can call pre flop then pass after) Great result.

Secondly people, don't let that Beagle fool you. He'll pass aces pre flop if you twitch enough.

Thirdly Snoops, no laughing at my "I just knew" comment! Yes I did read it! Cheesy
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« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2006, 06:29:33 PM »

so just out of curiosity what made you change your mind pre-flop to post-flop?

If you put your opponent on Aces pre-flop then why did you call the reraise? If you didnt put your opponent on aces preflop then what changed you mind to make you pass post-flop on a raggity rainbow board?
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« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2006, 07:03:42 PM »

so just out of curiosity what made you change your mind pre-flop to post-flop?

If you put your opponent on Aces pre-flop then why did you call the reraise? If you didnt put your opponent on aces preflop then what changed you mind to make you pass post-flop on a raggity rainbow board?

Maybe the bet of 2000 instead of all in. JJ and QQ would surely go all in here.
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« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2006, 08:11:04 PM »

so just out of curiosity what made you change your mind pre-flop to post-flop?

If you put your opponent on Aces pre-flop then why did you call the reraise? If you didnt put your opponent on aces preflop then what changed you mind to make you pass post-flop on a raggity rainbow board?

Like I said on the previous page, I regret making that call as it was too high a percentage of my stack. However, I wasn't sure he had aces until the flop.
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« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2006, 08:28:10 PM »

Like I said on the previous page, I regret making that call as it was too high a percentage of my stack. However, I wasn't sure he had aces until the flop.

thats why i'm asking - what was it that clinched it for you? If he goes all in on the flop instead of only betting 2000 do you call? if he checks and then goes all in on the turn or river and no A or K has hit the board do you call?
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« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2006, 08:33:15 PM »

Like I said on the previous page, I regret making that call as it was too high a percentage of my stack. However, I wasn't sure he had aces until the flop.

thats why i'm asking - what was it that clinched it for you? If he goes all in on the flop instead of only betting 2000 do you call? if he checks and then goes all in on the turn or river and no A or K has hit the board do you call?

There were 3 factors:

-- The fact that the rest of the table was rubbish.
-- His body language
-- Leaving so few chips behind

Obviously you're never 100% sure, but I always go with what I think, whether it means laying down big hands or called with weak ones.
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« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2006, 12:23:12 AM »

First off Snoops great pass.


I couldnt disagree more!
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« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2006, 12:35:38 AM »

First off Snoops great pass.


I couldnt disagree more!

I concur... Brilliant for being right on this occassion but you will be wrong so many time more than you are right!
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« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2006, 01:39:05 AM »

but you will be wrong so many time more than you are right!

I don't think so. 9/10 the limper has Aces there.
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« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2006, 01:45:58 AM »

Snoopy,

In a £30 Freezout 1 out of 1000 players would make this laydown and 95 out of 100 would push in pre-flop. You are either a genius that can read players after meeting them the first time or you took too many drugs at Uni. Which one we will see in your future results.

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« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2006, 04:16:55 AM »

Fact is he read he was behind, laid it down and was proved CORRECT. As I've said I personally would have either reraised or passed preflop but for not losing the REST of your stack.....



Great pass.
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« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2006, 10:53:30 AM »

Fact is he read he was behind, laid it down and was proved CORRECT. As I've said I personally would have either reraised or passed preflop but for not losing the REST of your stack.....



Great pass.

If 9 players move all in and you call the all in on the BB with 72, the flop comes 777, its a 'great call' becuase you win the pot, this does not make it right.
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« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2006, 01:49:09 PM »

No of course it doesn't - but but the scenario you mention doesn't involve reading where you are in the hand and acting accordingly - which is what Snoopy did.

If Snoopy had folded due to him not wanting to be out so early I'd agree with you - it's a bad fold whether the opponent had aces or not, because as you guys have said, more often than not Snoops would have been ahead.

However he didn't fold for that reason - he read he was behind. If he had read he was behind and then called surely that'd be an bad call?








N.B. Don't get me wrong here, I'm all for the action preflop - not post flop.
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« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2006, 01:51:00 PM »

A better way to word what I've just said would be:

If Snoopy reads he's behind post flop, do you still think he should put his chips in? Even though he feels quite conclusively that he's behind?
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