Play it again, against Sam

[TightEnd]

Sandhu folds,leaving himself 400,000

Sam shows  no pair no draw

Sandhu out three places later, Sam chops it for five figures.

[pleno1]

85 is a gutshot right?

[TightEnd]

85 is a gutshot right?

 oh yes. no pair, gutshot. lol.

[SuuPRlim]

all very well saying good players will be wider for value than bluffs in bluffy spots but it's ridic joke hard to have a value hand on this texture and with this action. QQ or some kind of random 94 squeeze imo if we are beat.

how is it hard to have a value bet here? He 3bet pre-flop

AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TT/99/AKcc/AQcc pretty sure SammyMac would squeeze all these pf and the guy's only hands are 66 or 44 really that he raises the flop with other hands are bluffs and "mid-pairs finding out if he has an OP"

He could also have gotten a lil OOL pf, 64s 54s A4s, K4s, 44, 66 (not too liklely last two ofc) point is Sam has tons more combo's of value hands than his oppo

Sure he's going to be bluffing the river 100% when he gets there with air (speshly after the turn nonsense), but how many airballs is he ACTULLY 4betting cold pre-flop and taking this line with vs someone he knows to be a bit of a station on the bubble with a huge stack when he knows he can steal so many chips by on the bubble with his image/stack. Even Sam who loves to be a mental knows that a cold 4 bet here is prolly going to mean bombing a hge chunk of the stack off to win the hand and it's not the smartest thing.

I think he had  and he got called.

[tikay]

all very well saying good players will be wider for value than bluffs in bluffy spots but it's ridic joke hard to have a value hand on this texture and with this action. QQ or some kind of random 94 squeeze imo if we are beat.

how is it hard to have a value bet here? He 3bet pre-flop

AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TT/99/AKcc/AQcc pretty sure SammyMac would squeeze all these pf and the guy's only hands are 66 or 44 really that he raises the flop with other hands are bluffs and "mid-pairs finding out if he has an OP"

He could also have gotten a lil OOL pf, 64s 54s A4s, K4s, 44, 66 (not too liklely last two ofc) point is Sam has tons more combo's of value hands than his oppo

Sure he's going to be bluffing the river 100% when he gets there with air (speshly after the turn nonsense), but how many airballs is he ACTULLY 4betting cold pre-flop and taking this line with vs someone he knows to be a bit of a station on the bubble with a huge stack when he knows he can steal so many chips by on the bubble with his image/stack. Even Sam who loves to be a mental knows that a cold 4 bet here is prolly going to mean bombing a hge chunk of the stack off to win the hand and it's not the smartest thing.

I think he had  and he got called.

Dave - the "reveal" is at the top of the Page.

[TightEnd]

At least you quoted his post so he can't delete it

[tikay]

At least you quoted his post so he can't delete it

Incidentally, just because his answer was wrong does not mean his logic was.

[Tal]

At least you quoted his post so he can't delete it

Incidentally, just because his answer was wrong does not mean his logic was.

Especially as - he assures me - his conclusion was the same as mine.

Mine was just an English translation. The day I discuss "VB ranges"...

[muckthenuts]

Haha wow! If i'm in that spot i give up trying to bluff haha. Sandhu will definitely never be folding anything ever again!

[bobAlike]

Haha wow! If i'm in that spot i give up trying to bluff haha. Sandhu will definitely never be folding anything ever again!

I think that was his first fold in 7 years

[Yian]

That's what happens when you don't have a plan for the hand or take into account what your opponents likely to do on later streets; you put half your stack in and the fold because it's for your tournament life. Oh Sandy!

Still risky on Sam's end. Another day he'll hero it off.

[Azza]

Did Sandu not show a  ?

[SuuPRlim]

lol Sammy Macaments.

A nice example of absolute face-rolling button bashing by both parties. WP everyone.

[sm00035]

not trying to say anything other then it probavbly looks like o i just rolled accrtoss a keyboard but a loy more things happened at the table and vbetween us which ,afde me confident he was never calling in million years. It is right though, he did shoe  which I obv was never trying to get him to fold if i knew he had it

[MC]

not trying to say anything other then it probavbly looks like o i just rolled accrtoss a keyboard but a loy more things happened at the table and vbetween us which ,afde me confident he was never calling in million years. It is right though, he did shoe   which I obv was never trying to get him to fold if i knew he had it

A queen and 88 are essentially the same surely. Unless he folded AQ with the or something.