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« on: September 22, 2012, 01:13:06 PM » |
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The recent Violent outbursts from sections of the Muslim world over the mocking of Mohamed in an American film are most disturbing.
Fair enough it's very important to them and they have the right to be offended etc.. But is murder and mayhem a justifiable reaction ?
If Christians kicked off every time god or Jesus was mocked there wouldn't be anyone left alive.
Personally I think all religion is a bunch of hooey and has caused man more ills, death and destruction than a raft of dictorial maniacs put together... But I respect enough all those that believe in mystical deity's to allow them to do so without forcing my own opinions upon them..
I mean an American ambassador was murdered ffs... Usually that would provoke some kind of air strike and invasion from our stars and stripes brethren... But here they are just a bit apologetic like liberal parents with a unruly child..
Should we continue to stand by and allow this kind of chaos to continue ?
Do we think certain parts of the Muslim world ( who like all religions preach peace and love but seems to involve quite a lot of senseless killing to achieve it ) are not over reacting to something that in reality is quite trivial ?
Discuss please...
Personally when I see the blind fanaticism in some of those hatred filled eyes it worries me greatly...
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George2Loose
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2012, 01:15:18 PM » |
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It's like an episode of 24.
Spose it's tough to strike back at Libya when the US helped liberate it. Obv zero justification behind any of these attacks. People using religion as an excuse to be nobs.
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the sicilian
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 01:21:23 PM » |
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Not suggesting anybody invades anyone but ffs we r supposed to b living in a civilised world... Imagine some of these nut jobs with their finger on the big red button..??
Religion aside Iran and north Korea spring to mind as very dangerous in real world terms ...
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 01:27:36 PM » |
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Funnily enough I was going to start a thread myself but changed my mind because I thought it would end up a shit fest.
They need to get a fucking grip and stop taking all these little things way too seriously. There are always going to be people that will say xxx about whatever religion, it does their religion no favour whatsoever in the eyes of the rest of the world if they jump up and down like baboons in these scenarios. Lets face it they could do with a bit of positive PR for a change rather than kicking up as fuss at every little thing they don't like.
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the sicilian
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 01:36:52 PM » |
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I think u can make ur point and ur displeasure clear without burning and killing....
Unfortunately harsh as it may sound we are dealing with an ignorance borne of subjugation where the mentality is indoctrinated from the off where freedom of thought is frowned upon and sheep like following is encouraged.
It's not the fault of the thousands on the street spewing hatred..it those that guide them, lead them to believe this is the way they should react... Look at the Pakistani leader shamelessly crowd pleasing to make his own position look better..guy should be ashamed endorsing such behaviour...he would go along way condemning the behaviour whilst also lodging a complaint on behalf of the Muslim world in the main political theatre...
We are truly lucky we live in such forgiving liberal societies ....
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2012, 02:30:13 PM » |
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Never discuss if I can help it football - politics- religion
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Acidmouse
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2012, 02:42:16 PM » |
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Someone I used to play Eve online with and a regular on another forum was killed in Libya along with a few other American diplomats. Not much you can say really, peple looking for an excuse. I wouldnt be suprised if some Muslims paid for the lay budget movie to be made ( i have seen it and it is literally a man in front of a green screen low budget home movie) to kick off. If most of these countries where they are kicking off hate the west so much lets cut ALL aid to them, stop dealing with them. How loud or the muslim community speaking out against these muppets? http://youtu.be/GCXHPKhRCVgPat sums it all up perfectly... |
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2012, 02:49:16 PM » |
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How much better would the world be without religion?
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2012, 02:58:33 PM » |
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It's the people. If they didn't have religion they'd be using some other excuse
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 05:02:33 PM » |
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I think they need to take the high road. Maybe they are offended but just take the attitude that they aren't gonna rise to it
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 06:42:39 PM » |
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How much better would the world be without religion?
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 06:44:54 PM » |
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The rioters in London and the other big cities in the UK didn't even need the cover of religion to go on the rampage.
Disillusioned men without prospects carrying out the acts of violence in both scenarios?
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2012, 06:49:47 PM » |
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The rioters in London and the other big cities in the UK didn't even need the cover of religion to go on the rampage.
Disillusioned men without prospects carrying out the acts of violence in both scenarios?
lots of women involved |
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kinboshi
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 07:07:09 PM » |
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The rioters in London and the other big cities in the UK didn't even need the cover of religion to go on the rampage.
Disillusioned men without prospects carrying out the acts of violence in both scenarios?
lots of women involved More men I'd guess though? In many of the Muslim countries always going to be more men involved in riots because of the way women are treated in society (by men). |
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2012, 07:15:57 PM » |
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Sigh, why do I keep replying to these types of thread.
True removing religion would not end all that is wrong with the world but it would come closer than removing or changing anything else. When people honestly believe that they are doing a gods will you can justify anything. Without religion there would be less wars and people would just generally be nicer. I am not going to bother listing the problems caused by religion as you know them. A few people would find another excuse to be tossers but the majority of the issues caused by religion just would not happen. These people honestly think they are doing good somehow.
It's not the people (in the main), people are mostly good and try to do what is right "Religion Posions Everything".
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