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« on: January 16, 2006, 10:16:58 PM » |
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Given the fact that you have enough chips to do so, do you think that there are any advantages to raising 'in the dark' before the flop in a tourney, bearing in mind that you're playing a pot in which you're heads-up?
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Graham C
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2006, 10:24:54 PM » |
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'in the dark' = without lookiing?
Why would you even want too?
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warthog
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2006, 10:26:51 PM » |
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Yeah, without looking. I have seen it been done a few times and have never understood the logic, was hoping someone could enlighten me..
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Graham C
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2006, 10:30:55 PM » |
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cant see why you'd even want to tbh, its of no benefit unless you want to look really chatty when you win ala El Blondie  |
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AndrewT
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2006, 10:35:00 PM » |
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There are two main reasons why people do this (I think)
1) To loosen up a tight table (more commonly used in cash games). Player will be more likely to call/raise you, which warms up their 'moving chips forward' arm.
2) To cultivate an aura of unpredictability/arrogance. Again, you're hoping to reap rewards later when your opponents will, maybe only subconciously, think of you as a bluffer/loose cannon.
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Bongo
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2006, 10:36:20 PM » |
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There are times when I'd think of raising no matter what cards I held, but i'd always look for 2 reasons:
1) I might have a monster and want to slow play.
2) If the opponent knows I haven't looked at my cards yet they have a pretty easy mathematical decision whether or not to play.
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2006, 10:39:53 PM » |
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early on in reuy comps this is good... big pots are made! i normally double the blind from utg!
Peter Costa does thisin the upcoming willhill gp, and he also said he did it in the wpt championships...
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2006, 11:20:55 PM » |
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Do you mean anouncing you are raising blind or just doing it sneakily?
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2006, 11:26:53 PM » |
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A good example of this was on my table at the blonde bash
M3boy v Simon Nowab being new to poker i thought what the hell is going on here, but fun to watch, good lighted humour.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2006, 11:28:46 PM » |
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No you make sure the table knows!
just don't let them know when you start to play properly again... it makes big pots and creates a gamblin table image for you! and its a bit of fun!
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2006, 11:32:11 PM » |
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Nah i don't do that but i do raise in position without looking |
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thetank
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2006, 12:22:35 AM » |
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2) If the opponent knows I haven't looked at my cards yet they have a pretty easy mathematical decision whether or not to play.
Darn good point by Bongo. There are times when you should raise with any two in a tournament. When I'm in this spot though, I'll always go through the charade of looking at my cards so the opponents aren't encouraged to call. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2006, 12:47:46 AM » |
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2) If the opponent knows I haven't looked at my cards yet they have a pretty easy mathematical decision whether or not to play.
Darn good point by Bongo. There are times when you should raise with any two in a tournament. When I'm in this spot though, I'll always go through the charade of looking at my cards so the opponents aren't encouraged to call. I look at them and then reach straight for my chips, clear sign of strength |
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thetank
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2006, 01:10:03 AM » |
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I look at them and then reach straight for my chips, clear sign of strength  makes another mental note. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2006, 02:08:44 AM » |
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if I am in the sb and its folded to me and have a 10-1 or more lead against the bb I automaticallly put him allin without looking. I also generally flat call from the sb without looking with 6-1 or above. Also if I am very short stacked. at the £100 tourney at the Broardway I lost a big pot on the river and was sb next leaving me only 400 over the bb so I went all in blind not much choice really.
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