Mayfair Casino witholding Ivey's winnings

[doubleup]

honey badger - the variance of punto banco when the first card is known is much lower than a picking a number in roulette

[Honeybadger]

Okay fair enough. But it was still possible for Ivey to lose in the short term right? He started off losing from what I gather. What if the casino stopped allowing the dealer to turn the cards round after a couple of days? The coup would be over and Ivey would never get to hit the long term and would have lost money. They were definitely freerolling him. Not saying the deliberately did so. And not saying I think Ivey should have won the case. I have no opinion on that really since I don't know the full facts. My only point is that it WAS possible for Ivey to lose and thus he has definitely been freerolled.

[doubleup]

He was losing small while he was stacking the deck - smarter ppl than me have said once he had the deck sorted there was virtually no chance of him losing.

[Honeybadger]

In that case I stand corrected

[Royal Flush]

Yeah I mean he was 1-1,000,000 to win, I did laugh at your other commitments line, with Ivey that might actually be true he could be so balla as to walk away from an easy £5m because he fancies going out in LA

[RED-DOG]

In that case I stand corrected

Now there's a man who known how to debate.

You will find dozens of debate threads on here, but hardly any where someone concedes.

[MANTIS01]

I concede "we" doesn't necessarily have to include "me". I am sorry.

[RED-DOG]

I concede "we" doesn't necessarily have to include "me". I am sorry.

But that's where you're wrong see.

When you say we, you automatically include your self, but in this instance, you were betting against what the we you included yourself in thought, thereby causing a tear in the space time continuum.

I, (we, excluding you) think you (excluding we) should apologise for your apology.

[doubleup]

What about us?

[SuuPRlim]

Yeh I thought the same stu, Ivey could have easily lost here, it's gambling after all, then I found out exactly what "edge sorting" was, who was bankrolling Ivey  and read he'd mentioned he'd be in town for 4 days and would be playing every day...

Chance of not profiting here was likely >1% genuinely.

[tikay]

Yeh I thought the same stu, Ivey could have easily lost here, it's gambling after all, then I found out exactly what "edge sorting" was, who was bankrolling Ivey  and read he'd mentioned he'd be in town for 4 days and would be playing every day...

Chance of not profiting here was likely >1% genuinely.

You will have to explain that to me, Dave.

If he was 99% certain to turn a profit, and many have suggested he is worth tens of millions, why would he want or need bankrolling? Are you suggesting he was just a front man for this attempted coup? Or is he not, after all, worth as much as some think?

If I had a 1/100 shot, I sure as hell would not be selling any action if I could afford to keep the lot.

[smurf]

Yeh I thought the same stu, Ivey could have easily lost here, it's gambling after all, then I found out exactly what "edge sorting" was, who was bankrolling Ivey  and read he'd mentioned he'd be in town for 4 days and would be playing every day...

Chance of not profiting here was likely >1% genuinely.

You will have to explain that to me, Dave.

If he was 99% certain to turn a profit, and many have suggested he is worth tens of millions, why would he want or need bankrolling? Are you suggesting he was just a front man for this attempted coup? Or is he not, after all, worth as much as some think?

If I had a 1/100 shot, I sure as hell would not be selling any action if I could afford to keep the lot.

Part covers my thoughts - if he is worth millions why the need to do it, why risk everything if he is already so well off. His reputation tarnished.
The greater risk being that the casinos get together and stick a ban on him...imagine that...every Vegas casino hitting him with a ban...the risk he took just doesn't add up for some one supposedly so well off.

[david3103]

What about us?

and them?

[lee h]

Stuart,

Your memory slightly wrong:

We lost just short of £14000 over 5100 spins

(we won £56,000 at the Vic, and about the same at Gala in 3 days when they repeated it after we had lost in the January!)

Happy days

lee

[Honeybadger]

In that case I stand corrected. Again.

You still have records of all our results in these promotions Lee?