April Jones

[The Camel]

Surely in this case the police should be allowed a pardon to torture the animal they have charged until he tells them where she is. Questioning has got nothing obviously.

Thought he was innocent til proved guilty.

Enough high profile cases in the last few of years where police have arrested, named and charged the wrong person to prove that without doubt.

Torturing Colin Stagg, Chris Jeffries, the Guildford Four etc wouldn't have done much good apart from lower the UK to the levels of North Korea, Sudan and Uganda.

[bobAlike]

Surely in this case the police should be allowed a pardon to torture the animal they have charged until he tells them where she is. Questioning has got nothing obviously.

Thought he was innocent til proved guilty.

Enough high profile cases in the last few of years where police have arrested, named and charged the wrong person to prove that without doubt.

Torturing Colin Stagg, Chris Jeffries, the Guildford Four etc wouldn't have done much good apart from lower the UK to the levels of North Korea, Sudan and Uganda.

....and dont mention the Renault 5.

[horseplayer]

Surely in this case the police should be allowed a pardon to torture the animal they have charged until he tells them where she is. Questioning has got nothing obviously.

Thought he was innocent til proved guilty.

Enough high profile cases in the last few of years where police have arrested, named and charged the wrong person to prove that without doubt.

Torturing Colin Stagg, Chris Jeffries, the Guildford Four etc wouldn't have done much good apart from lower the UK to the levels of North Korea, Sudan and Uganda.

spot on

[AceHighSuited]

Your first post says wtf were the parents thinking, then you say, this is not the time to discuss their parenting skills?

So, the parents let their special needs child out out alone in the dark at 7.30pm. They deserve all they get.

I mean, why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

I haven't paid too much attention to the full story, but I thought it was 7pm? And she was with friends? Also, how many children across the UK play out at that time? It's just too easy to say the parents are to blame imo.

I never at any point suggested they deserved this.  

My initial thought when watching the TV coverage was wtf, that's why I wrote it like that.   I don't want this thread to be about judging the parents but ultimately they have a responsibility.  

I am going with what I have seen reported, it looks like this little girl was a fair distance from her home playing with these friends.  

Obviously the cops know more than what they are allowing into the public domain but for me there is something just not right with the whole situation.  

Why would your initial thought be wtf? Why would anyones first thought be wtf?

I said I never wanted this debate to be about the parenting atm but you seem intent on getting me to comment on it. 

I think it was wreckless, and irresponsible to leave a 5 year old out at that time of evening.  Even if she had been playing within the boundary of her own home and been abducted I would still question the parenting.  Do you remember Maddie McCann she was in her bed sleeping and not as far away from her parents.

Pretty sure if the mother was a single parent living in a rough housing estate in Manchester, London or Glasgow she wouldn't be afforded the same level of sympathy. 

I'd love to think this little girl will turn up safe and sound but that is looking increasingly unlikely.

[celtic]

Your first post says wtf were the parents thinking, then you say, this is not the time to discuss their parenting skills?

So, the parents let their special needs child out out alone in the dark at 7.30pm. They deserve all they get.

I mean, why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

I haven't paid too much attention to the full story, but I thought it was 7pm? And she was with friends? Also, how many children across the UK play out at that time? It's just too easy to say the parents are to blame imo.

I never at any point suggested they deserved this.  

My initial thought when watching the TV coverage was wtf, that's why I wrote it like that.   I don't want this thread to be about judging the parents but ultimately they have a responsibility.  

I am going with what I have seen reported, it looks like this little girl was a fair distance from her home playing with these friends.  

Obviously the cops know more than what they are allowing into the public domain but for me there is something just not right with the whole situation.  

Why would your initial thought be wtf? Why would anyones first thought be wtf?

I said I never wanted this debate to be about the parenting atm but you seem intent on getting me to comment on it. 

I think it was wreckless, and irresponsible to leave a 5 year old out at that time of evening.  Even if she had been playing within the boundary of her own home and been abducted I would still question the parenting.  Do you remember Maddie McCann she was in her bed sleeping and not as far away from her parents.

Pretty sure if the mother was a single parent living in a rough housing estate in Manchester, London or Glasgow she wouldn't be afforded the same level of sympathy. 

I'd love to think this little girl will turn up safe and sound but that is looking increasingly unlikely.

If she was living in a rough housing estate in london, manchester or glasgow, then this probably wouldn't have happened.

The Maddy McCann thing is totallly different to this.

[George2Loose]

Easy to make quick judgements.

[The Camel]

Your first post says wtf were the parents thinking, then you say, this is not the time to discuss their parenting skills?

So, the parents let their special needs child out out alone in the dark at 7.30pm. They deserve all they get.

I mean, why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

I haven't paid too much attention to the full story, but I thought it was 7pm? And she was with friends? Also, how many children across the UK play out at that time? It's just too easy to say the parents are to blame imo.

I never at any point suggested they deserved this.  

My initial thought when watching the TV coverage was wtf, that's why I wrote it like that.   I don't want this thread to be about judging the parents but ultimately they have a responsibility.  

I am going with what I have seen reported, it looks like this little girl was a fair distance from her home playing with these friends.  

Obviously the cops know more than what they are allowing into the public domain but for me there is something just not right with the whole situation.  

Why would your initial thought be wtf? Why would anyones first thought be wtf?

I said I never wanted this debate to be about the parenting atm but you seem intent on getting me to comment on it. 

I think it was wreckless, and irresponsible to leave a 5 year old out at that time of evening.  Even if she had been playing within the boundary of her own home and been abducted I would still question the parenting.  Do you remember Maddie McCann she was in her bed sleeping and not as far away from her parents.

Pretty sure if the mother was a single parent living in a rough housing estate in Manchester, London or Glasgow she wouldn't be afforded the same level of sympathy. 

I'd love to think this little girl will turn up safe and sound but that is looking increasingly unlikely.

You can't live your life expecting terrible things to happen.

Millions of children have played outside their houses or down the street for hundreds of years and bad things have happened to an infinitely tiny proportion.

What sort of adult are you going to produce if you keep a child at home, under your total supervision for the first 16 years of their life?

[celtic]

Your first post says wtf were the parents thinking, then you say, this is not the time to discuss their parenting skills?

So, the parents let their special needs child out out alone in the dark at 7.30pm. They deserve all they get.

I mean, why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

I haven't paid too much attention to the full story, but I thought it was 7pm? And she was with friends? Also, how many children across the UK play out at that time? It's just too easy to say the parents are to blame imo.

I never at any point suggested they deserved this.  

My initial thought when watching the TV coverage was wtf, that's why I wrote it like that.   I don't want this thread to be about judging the parents but ultimately they have a responsibility.  

I am going with what I have seen reported, it looks like this little girl was a fair distance from her home playing with these friends.  

Obviously the cops know more than what they are allowing into the public domain but for me there is something just not right with the whole situation.  

Why would your initial thought be wtf? Why would anyones first thought be wtf?

I said I never wanted this debate to be about the parenting atm but you seem intent on getting me to comment on it. 

I think it was wreckless, and irresponsible to leave a 5 year old out at that time of evening.  Even if she had been playing within the boundary of her own home and been abducted I would still question the parenting.  Do you remember Maddie McCann she was in her bed sleeping and not as far away from her parents.

Pretty sure if the mother was a single parent living in a rough housing estate in Manchester, London or Glasgow she wouldn't be afforded the same level of sympathy. 

I'd love to think this little girl will turn up safe and sound but that is looking increasingly unlikely.

You can't live your life expecting terrible things to happen.

Millions of children have played outside their houses or down the street for hundreds of years and bad things have happened to an infinitely tiny proportion.

What sort of adult are you going to produce if you keep a child at home, under your total supervision for the first 16 years of their life?

Chompy?

[the sicilian]

The most tragic thing about this it was avoidable..

I'm sorry... 5 year old, dark no adult supervision = massive no

This is not a case of being over protective....  A 5 year old knows no fear and is naturally inquisitive.. Wandering off is highly likely...

I remember my heart being in my mouth the first time my 12 year old went to the shops with her mates..but I know there comes a time when you let the reins go slack as they grow and become independent..but a toddler ? No way

The day after it first happened I looked out the window at 7pm... It was pitch black.. I wouldn't let my 9 year old outside unsuperVised... You don't have to be draconian about.. My two played outside as toddlers at the bottom of the drive with their little friends but I was at the top of the drive with them in my sight at all times...

Too much ...? Maybe.. But you won't see me in tears on the telly wondeRing where my kid is because I couldn't be arsed to supervise them...

Mcanns.... Should have been prosecuted IMO... Not only a 4 year old left alone but two babies as well..that's neglect.. Apart from the fact it still stinks..

[celtic]

The most tragic thing about this it was avoidable..

I'm sorry... 5 year old, dark no adult supervision = massive no

This is not a case of being over protective....  A 5 year old knows no fear and is naturally inquisitive.. Wandering off is highly likely...

I remember my heart being in my mouth the first time my 12 year old went to the shops with her mates..but I know there comes a time when you let the reins go slack as they grow and become independent..but a toddler ? No way

The day after it first happened I looked out the window at 7pm... It was pitch black.. I wouldn't let my 9 year old outside unsuperVised... You don't have to be draconian about.. My two played outside as toddlers at the bottom of the drive with their little friends but I was at the top of the drive with them in my sight at all times...

Too much ...? Maybe.. But you won't see me in tears on the telly wondeRing where my kid is because I couldn't be arsed to supervise them...

Mcanns.... Should have been prosecuted IMO... Not only a 4 year old left alone but two babies as well..that's neglect.. Apart from the fact it still stinks..

WRONG!

[the sicilian]

The most tragic thing about this it was avoidable..

I'm sorry... 5 year old, dark no adult supervision = massive no

This is not a case of being over protective....  A 5 year old knows no fear and is naturally inquisitive.. Wandering off is highly likely...

I remember my heart being in my mouth the first time my 12 year old went to the shops with her mates..but I know there comes a time when you let the reins go slack as they grow and become independent..but a toddler ? No way

The day after it first happened I looked out the window at 7pm... It was pitch black.. I wouldn't let my 9 year old outside unsuperVised... You don't have to be draconian about.. My two played outside as toddlers at the bottom of the drive with their little friends but I was at the top of the drive with them in my sight at all times...

Too much ...? Maybe.. But you won't see me in tears on the telly wondeRing where my kid is because I couldn't be arsed to supervise them...

Mcanns.... Should have been prosecuted IMO... Not only a 4 year old left alone but two babies as well..that's neglect.. Apart from the fact it still stinks..

WRONG!

Ur saying if there's an adult present it still happens ?...

[bobAlike]

The most tragic thing about this it was avoidable..

I'm sorry... 5 year old, dark no adult supervision = massive no

This is not a case of being over protective....  A 5 year old knows no fear and is naturally inquisitive.. Wandering off is highly likely...

I remember my heart being in my mouth the first time my 12 year old went to the shops with her mates..but I know there comes a time when you let the reins go slack as they grow and become independent..but a toddler ? No way

The day after it first happened I looked out the window at 7pm... It was pitch black.. I wouldn't let my 9 year old outside unsuperVised... You don't have to be draconian about.. My two played outside as toddlers at the bottom of the drive with their little friends but I was at the top of the drive with them in my sight at all times...

Too much ...? Maybe.. But you won't see me in tears on the telly wondeRing where my kid is because I couldn't be arsed to supervise them...

Mcanns.... Should have been prosecuted IMO... Not only a 4 year old left alone but two babies as well..that's neglect.. Apart from the fact it still stinks..

WRONG!

Ur saying if there's an adult present it still happens ?...

There was an adult present.

[the sicilian]

Of all te reports I've read no mention of an adult being present and when the police first spoke about the vehicle involved they were sceptical of the description because it came from a child... Reports say she was outside in the dark with friends unsupervised..if an adult present then I take everything back but as far as I know that's not correct

[bobAlike]

Of all te reports I've read no mention of an adult being present and when the police first spoke about the vehicle involved they were sceptical of the description because it came from a child... Reports say she was outside in the dark with friends unsupervised..if an adult present then I take everything back but as far as I know that's not correct

It may have been bad taste but it was a joke.

[the sicilian]

Of all te reports I've read no mention of an adult being present and when the police first spoke about the vehicle involved they were sceptical of the description because it came from a child... Reports say she was outside in the dark with friends unsupervised..if an adult present then I take everything back but as far as I know that's not correct

It may have been bad taste but it was a joke.

Lol u whooshed me..... It's weird I'm pretty laid back about things..sometimes a little too much but this particular subject actually brings forth a true emotion...