April Jones

[bobAlike]

Of all te reports I've read no mention of an adult being present and when the police first spoke about the vehicle involved they were sceptical of the description because it came from a child... Reports say she was outside in the dark with friends unsupervised..if an adult present then I take everything back but as far as I know that's not correct

It may have been bad taste but it was a joke.

Lol u whooshed me..... It's weird I'm pretty laid back about things..sometimes a little too much but this particular subject actually brings forth a true emotion...

I do actually agree with you. My wife is a child counsellor and the shit what goes on is horrifying and we don't hear the half of it.

[The Camel]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

[the sicilian]

Of all te reports I've read no mention of an adult being present and when the police first spoke about the vehicle involved they were sceptical of the description because it came from a child... Reports say she was outside in the dark with friends unsupervised..if an adult present then I take everything back but as far as I know that's not correct

It may have been bad taste but it was a joke.

Lol u whooshed me..... It's weird I'm pretty laid back about things..sometimes a little too much but this particular subject actually brings forth a true emotion...

I do actually agree with you. My wife is a child counsellor and the shit what goes on is horrifying and we don't hear the half of it.

Not a job I could do tbh..... Takes a special kind of person.... You probably couldn't make up half the horrors perpetrated on defenceless children.... Unfortunately we have always lived in a world with evil in it...

But I've seen so many examples of so called parents literally viewing their children as a pain in the arse inconvenience .... My youngest best friend is the sweetest bubbliest kid you could imagine..absolute sweet heart and I've taken her out on days out with us..she has cystic fibrosis and has treatment twice a day..although unless told u would never know...she's so full of energy it's unreal... What's her mother do..dump her on her kids nan fucks off shacks up with a dude who has a kid the same age and the has a baby with him... A Nd the cherry on the cake she picks up her step kid from the same school gate as her own daughter...and even sees her own daughter before wandering off holding the hand of the other kid... Woman's fucking scum in my eyes...

[bobAlike]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

It's a gamble which you're willing to take and that's your prerogative. How ever slight the odds shit can happen and me personally I wouldn't gamble like that with my kids.

[the sicilian]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

You let him play in the darkness at 5 alone?

[the sicilian]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

It's a gamble which you're willing to take and that's your prerogative. How ever slight the odds shit can happen and me personally I wouldn't gamble like that with my kids.

Yeah think it's a bit short sighted to go with the it will never happen to me attitude...5 year olds don't even know what a boundary is and need more guidance than letting a 10 year old down the park playing footie with his mates

[celtic]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

You let him play in the darkness at 5 alone?

I really think your view is wrong here, the actual chance of something happening to a child playing in the street v the number of children playing in the street is so so small, that it probably isn't worth worrying about.

Probably higher odds of a child being killed in other ways, other than being swiped of a street.

[the sicilian]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

You let him play in the darkness at 5 alone?

I really think your view is wrong here, the actual chance of something happening to a child playing in the street v the number of children playing in the street is so so small, that it probably isn't worth worrying about.

Probably higher odds of a child being killed in other ways, other than being swiped of a street.

Jeez vince seriously ? Yes the chance is thankfully small but is it a chance ur happy to take all because ur not willing to stand there and watch the kids play...I don't thinks so much the unsupervised bit but the time of night and how dark it was...kids of most ages should be inside safe let alone a 5 year old

[AceHighSuited]

I think the sicilian is spot on here. 

Proper supervision would have stopped this, no doubt about it.  That's  not to say supervision is the answer to everything.  I agree kids need to be allowed to grow up, the same as you need to let them be free around animals and let them get bumps and bruises but at 5 years of age when its pitch black outside there is no chance a 5 year old should be out playing with friends. 

Maybe I come form a different type of area than most on here and we are more conscious of whats going on outside out front doors in regards to the bad apples.  But regardless of where I lived, I would never let anyone that young out at that time of night. 

[the sicilian]

You know something I see regular... Ten or eleven year olds walking the street midnight and later on school nights... Just beggars belief tbh....

[The Camel]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

It's a gamble which you're willing to take and that's your prerogative. How ever slight the odds shit can happen and me personally I wouldn't gamble like that with my kids.

If you think that's a gamble, how do you let your kids go to school?

A lot more chance of being "interfered with" by a paedo at school than being snatched off the street imo.

The reason these stories get such huge publicity is they are so rare.

But the media saturation and scare stories make people think they are much more common than they actually are.

Children are loads more likely to be abused, harmed or murdered by family members than strangers.

[The Camel]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

You let him play in the darkness at 5 alone?

I really think your view is wrong here, the actual chance of something happening to a child playing in the street v the number of children playing in the street is so so small, that it probably isn't worth worrying about.

Probably higher odds of a child being killed in other ways, other than being swiped of a street.

I would be far more worried that Jake would be hit by a car than snatched by a stranger.

[the sicilian]

Meh.

I played on the streets and in the park unsupervised from the age of 5 or 6.

I certainly wasn't neglected by my parents! (If anything I was over protected)

My boy can and does play outside with his friends.

Giving kids freedom letting them reach their boundaries is part of them growing up imo.

You let him play in the darkness at 5 alone?

I really think your view is wrong here, the actual chance of something happening to a child playing in the street v the number of children playing in the street is so so small, that it probably isn't worth worrying about.

Probably higher odds of a child being killed in other ways, other than being swiped of a street.

I would be far more worried that Jake would be hit by a car than snatched by a stranger.

Think the crux is this question :

Keith would YOU  let your 5 old son outside unsupeRvised in the pitch black?

[Dewi_cool]

Must be a lot of bad parents in Mychanlleth then, or are you a bad parent if a sick fkr decides to abduct your child and no one else's, It's a small town with virtually no crime, where everyone knows each other, there was no risk, other than a one in a million chance of this happening.

[celtic]

ffs, she wasn't out unspervised, like you're making out. She was playing with friends. Reports I have read tonight, say that her friends told her not to go in the car, she said it's ok, she knows him. The guy arrested is well known in the area. And has two children living on the same estate. Which kinda kills you're argument Deano.