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« on: January 17, 2006, 08:38:41 AM »

Cash game

3 players involved in flop

Flop and turn are -
 

Round of betting , turn comes -
 
Player 1 moves all-in, player 2 calls the all-in, player 3 also moves all-in.
Now in our club, players always back hands once the chips are in.
Player 1 shows 6x for a straight, Player 2 Mucks hand, Player 3 also shows 6x.
River is dealt-
 
This makes it a split pot.
Player 2 - now declares his hand the board and takes part of the split pot.
Is this right?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 08:56:36 AM »

No, his hand is dead & he has no claim on the pot.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2006, 09:16:36 AM »

if his hand touches the muck it is mucked 

totally dead no claim to the pot
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2006, 09:18:40 AM »

Hand mucked=hand dead=silly person
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2006, 09:42:39 AM »

Unfortunate circumstances, but I guess that he has learnt a valuable lesson for the future.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2006, 09:55:51 AM »

he was stupid to muck his cards after calling the all  in.  Should have kept hold of them.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2006, 09:58:43 AM »

more importantly...did anyone let him have the chips...on a mucked hand.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2006, 03:00:11 PM »

If the pot is between 3 people and two of them are all in pre river. The cards should be "on there backs" before the river is dealt. The player then has no rights to muck any hand, it is now in the control of the dealer and cards speak. All players are now live and have no choice. The person that mucked could have had 6 8 and could have been passing chips to his "mate" therefore the player that mucked should be warned that if he passed like that again he will be disqualified.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2006, 03:05:18 PM »

Sorry just read it was a cash game, I take that back Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2006, 04:58:37 PM »

According to that guys logic, if he claimed to play the board after passing his hand before the river, then everyone who passed before the river can also play the board including pre-flop passes.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2006, 07:13:02 PM »

Thanks for the reply guys.
I normally make any decisions in the tournies and cash games but the problem was i was one of the all-in players.
So i passed the decision over to one of the other members, after a lot of chat they allowed him to take his share of the pot!!!
I said his hand was dead but obviously couldnt get involved, anyway I removed all his chips shortly after Smiley



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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2006, 08:57:48 PM »

......anyway I removed all his chips shortly after Smiley

Not surprised, since he was daft enough to muck in that situation!
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2006, 01:49:04 AM »

Well he is clearly not a good player given he called on a 3457 board and had no outs!
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2006, 03:34:19 AM »

Related to this thread. the other night a guy at the final table moved all in and did not hear a person call, he thought he had won uncontested and mucked his cards. What should have been the ruling?
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2006, 10:27:35 AM »

All rulings are subject to a "spirit of the game " factor, so IMO leeway must be given for honest mistakes.
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