US Election

[tikay]

No particular "love" here, the relevance is that it suggests they believe the result is nailed on. And it must be true, because my Granny told me that bookies are never wrong.

[kinboshi]

Yes like I said 'when it hit the us'

Was referring to Aaron's post.

[kinboshi]

No particular "love" here, the relevance is that it suggests they believe the result is nailed on. And it must be true, because my Granny told me that bookies are never wrong.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/03/bookie-betfred-manchester-united-title

As has been said, surely only makes sense as a marketing/publicity ploy?

[Woodsey]

 

[TommyD]

So much win.  Worth checking out the Saturday Night Live Presidential Debate skits on Youtube as well IMO.

[Marky147]

<3 Chris Rock!

[Waz1892]

looking ever more like Obama

[kinboshi]

looking ever more like Obama

Thankfully.

[Tal]

That was quite a speech. The bloodiest and most unpleasant campaign in a generation comes to end with a simple, formulaic call to arms, bathed in classical rhetoric, slathered in patriotism and dipped neatly in buzzwords.

Hilary '16?

[Laxie]

That was quite a speech. The bloodiest and most unpleasant campaign in a generation comes to end with a simple, formulaic call to arms, bathed in classical rhetoric, slathered in patriotism and dipped neatly in buzzwords.

Hilary '16?

She says "no" right now, but once Hillary retires from the State Department in January, there's every chance she'll get bored sitting around and change her mind. 

However, if she does decide to go for it, she'll be crucified by questions regarding Benghazi.  It'll be difficult to win an election without some sharp answers to those questions.  She knows this and if she runs...it'll make the fight for this year's election look like a school bake sale.

[TommyD]

That was quite a speech. The bloodiest and most unpleasant campaign in a generation comes to end with a simple, formulaic call to arms, bathed in classical rhetoric, slathered in patriotism and dipped neatly in buzzwords.

Hilary '16?

She says "no" right now, but once Hillary retires from the State Department in January, there's every chance she'll get bored sitting around and change her mind. 

However, if she does decide to go for it, she'll be crucified by questions regarding Benghazi.  It'll be difficult to win an election without some sharp answers to those questions.  She knows this and if she runs...it'll make the fight for this year's election look like a school bake sale.

Hilary will be 69 years of age in 2016.  IIRC the only person who was older at time of their first elected term was Ronald Reegan.  It's possible but with everyone pushing for connection to the youth of America and her obvious association to the 1990s I see her chances as unlikely to even get the Democrat nomination.

[TightEnd]

The psephology of all this is very interesting

This was written in 2009 and proved very prescient

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1904136,00.html

the White population in the US is falling 2% every 30 years

The Hispanic population in the US rising 2% every 30 years

Last night something like 85% of Hispanics voted Democrat

Big big structural demographic shifts going on, and a GOP that in parts has its head in the sand

It forces republican candiates to pander to the very right wing during the primaries and then head way to the centre for the November election, by which time the damage is done

I mean, how could Romney every win Ohio when he made millions alongside Bain capital from the ousourcing of the Detroit motor industry and voted against the bailout?

How can Republicans get the vote of Women (Obama was 20% ahead on the Women vote) when some senators (who all got turfed out yesterday after expressing such views ) are rape deniers and so anti abortion that its a no-no for them even if conception is through rape/incest?

Pretty fascinating stuff, but not as fascinating as watching Fox News through the night and seeing so many right wing commentators stuck in the mud.

[redarmi]

One thing I think has been fascinating about this election is the degree to which the Republicans and right in the US seem so keen to disprove logic, science and maths.  The demonisation of Nate Silver for having the gall to actually look at polling data and modelling it is a case in point as is the constant denial of climate change and evangelical based policies on abortion, contraception and gay marriage. 

[TightEnd]

more on this

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/07/14993875-first-thoughts-obamas-demographic-edge?lite

[TightEnd]

http://pokerfuse.com/features/editorial-opinion/why-the-united-states-election-could-not-have-gone-better-for-online-poker-players-07-11/