Thoughts

[Pinchop73]

the villian who shoved is 15/11 and he overcalled the flop so he can't have QT

So I take it the only hand you feel you beat that is in villains range otr is TT?

If you know this why post the hand? 'I haz folded full house' bragaments?

Do you call with 99 otr?

[MANTIS01]

I would call for 2 reasons. First reason is we just hit a miracle 8 otr to make a full house and in poker a full house is a good hand.

Second reason, I don't like turn action where it's checked round. If I am villain with 10k stack at 150/300/30 & covered by both oppos in multi way pot I'm thinking kerching full double up after flopping a monster here. I would be looking to set up a good spot to jam river or maybe play for stacks on the turn. After the flop action I can't rightly expect the opener with obv wide range to fire a second bullet so checking effectively takes us to the river with no further action. Now on final street the pot is bout 3.5k and we have like 9k so really we have played our big hand like shit.

The thing to remember is we DID NOT have a big hand until the miracle river. So we played our hand in keeping and checked the turn also. We could have repped loads on the turn, got value from j and draws and inflated the pot, but chose to check instead. Villain can rightly assume we don't have a big hand either so his river jam is pretty good play imo. After our small blocker lead there is now over 5k out there and unless you hit some miracle river it's a good squeeze set up. In fact the move is so strong it even gets miracle full house folding. Villain can be turning smaller pp or 9 into bluffs here all day long. I would praise the Lord and call quickly.

[TL900]

the villian who shoved is 15/11 and he overcalled the flop so he can't have QT

So I take it the only hand you feel you beat that is in villains range otr is TT?

If you know this why post the hand? 'I haz folded full house' bragaments?

Do you call with 99 otr?

i was happy with my fold until i showed it to some people and some said snap and some said fold so i posted it here to see what people thought, maybe i shoulda left off the bit where i folded but w/e

[muckthenuts]

Seems huuuugely optimistic to think a reg, who probably has a bunch of other tables going, is gonna get freakishly ool here against another reg in this spot. Folding just cannot be bad.

[Young_gun]

I would call for 2 reasons. First reason is we just hit a miracle 8 otr to make a full house and in poker a full house is a good hand.

Second reason, I don't like turn action where it's checked round. If I am villain with 10k stack at 150/300/30 & covered by both oppos in multi way pot I'm thinking kerching full double up after flopping a monster here. I would be looking to set up a good spot to jam river or maybe play for stacks on the turn. After the flop action I can't rightly expect the opener with obv wide range to fire a second bullet so checking effectively takes us to the river with no further action. Now on final street the pot is bout 3.5k and we have like 9k so really we have played our big hand like shit.

The thing to remember is we DID NOT have a big hand until the miracle river. So we played our hand in keeping and checked the turn also. We could have repped loads on the turn, got value from j and draws and inflated the pot, but chose to check instead. Villain can rightly assume we don't have a big hand either so his river jam is pretty good play imo. After our small blocker lead there is now over 5k out there and unless you hit some miracle river it's a good squeeze set up. In fact the move is so strong it even gets miracle full house folding. Villain can be turning smaller pp or 9 into bluffs here all day long. I would praise the Lord and call quickly.

Wins thread!

[jgcblack]

the villian who shoved is 15/11 and he overcalled the flop so he can't have QT

you're so good.

It upsets me for a second, then I remember I consider you a friend and then it cheers me up you're so good.

[shipitonetime]

If villain is a reg, i cant see him shoving here for value vs ur sb calling range with worse. Fold seems like the right decision to me and doesnt seem close. Also pf seems fine. 88 is prob bottom of my range to call in this spot and 3b/5b seems spewy without good reason.

[SuuPRlim]

I think calling pre-flop is a perfectly fine play