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« Reply #1800 on: December 30, 2014, 07:43:28 AM »

So from what I can see Anderson has 17 180's and MVG 16. Obvs Ando was helped by his long match and looks like Bazzer was spot on that he needs to reach the final to win the 180's bet. Not a two horse race just yet. But some great matches coming up.

Actually not sure if last nights 180's have been updated so MVG s probably in front having played a match more. Anyone know for sure?
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« Reply #1801 on: December 30, 2014, 07:52:00 AM »

Does anyone like the 10/11 on Smith +1.5 against Bunting, after watching how they have played surely this is a close one? Bunting seems to be back on the 180's last night and I know Smith is banging them in but I like the 13/10 on Bunting most 180's. Thoughts?
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« Reply #1802 on: December 30, 2014, 08:33:17 AM »

So from what I can see Anderson has 17 180's and MVG 16. Obvs Ando was helped by his long match and looks like Bazzer was spot on that he needs to reach the final to win the 180's bet. Not a two horse race just yet. But some great matches coming up.

Actually not sure if last nights 180's have been updated so MVG s probably in front having played a match more. Anyone know for sure?

MVG has 19 now same as Smith. 

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« Reply #1803 on: December 30, 2014, 10:47:24 AM »

Coral have a market on who will get the highest checkout this afternoon

Their prices are:

11/4 Anderson
10/3 Wright
4 Winstanley
4 VVdV
11/2 Hamilton
7 Reyes

Isn't this just a function of how many legs each player is likely to play/win and a touch of randomness thrown in?

Anderson is very likely to win 4-0, while the other 2 matches are liable to go to 6 or 7 sets.

Does the fact Anderson is such a strong favourite and very likely to win 12 legs by winning 4-0 outweigh the chance that a player is less likely to win but a good chance to play several more legs?

I've thrown a small dart at Hamilton @ 11/2 anyway.

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« Reply #1804 on: December 30, 2014, 10:50:07 AM »

Does anyone like the 10/11 on Smith +1.5 against Bunting, after watching how they have played surely this is a close one? Bunting seems to be back on the 180's last night and I know Smith is banging them in but I like the 13/10 on Bunting most 180's. Thoughts?

I've backed Smith. He was very impressive yesterday whereas Bunting admitted after his match that his game isn't in the best of shapes, he was lucky that Wade didn't turn up.
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« Reply #1805 on: December 30, 2014, 12:16:49 PM »

411 total 180's so far. 

That bet of under 599 could be in trouble. 

There could be a fair few 180's today. 
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« Reply #1806 on: December 30, 2014, 12:26:58 PM »

411 total 180's so far.  

That bet of under 599 could be in trouble.  

There could be a fair few 180's today.  

I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted?

That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are

13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages:

Last 16
(7)   Michael van Gerwen   4 V 3   Gary Anderson   (12)
(3)   Adrian Lewis   4 V 1   Mervyn King   (3)
(7)   James Wade   4 V 0   Devon Petersen   (3)
(7)   Peter Wright   4 V 3   Michael Smith   (10)
(6)   Wes Newton   4 V 1   Robert Thornton   (5)
(5)   Simon Whitlock   4 V 0   Kevin Painter   (2)
(6)   Ian White   4 V 3   Richie Burnett   (4)
(6)   Mark Webster   4 V 3   Raymond van Barneveld   (8)
        
Quarter Final
(6)   Peter Wright   5 V 4   Wes Newton   (12)
(15)   Simon Whitlock   5 V 4   Ian White   (12)
(9)   Michael van Gerwen   5 V 3   Mark Webster   (4)
(7)   Adrian Lewis   5 V 1   James Wade   (6)
        
Semi Final
(5)   Peter Wright   6 V 2   Simon Whitlock   (6)
(6)   Michael van Gerwen   6 V 0   Adrian Lewis   (6)
        
Final
(16)   Michael van Gerwen   7 V 4   Peter Wright   (6)


Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example.
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« Reply #1807 on: December 30, 2014, 12:32:59 PM »

You still think it's in with a chance Tal? 

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« Reply #1808 on: December 30, 2014, 12:39:07 PM »

You still think it's in with a chance Tal?  



169 maximums in the last 32 last year (finished 603) against 175 this year, so the bet is behind, but it's not as bad as it looks, as long as the final four aren't closely matched heavy lipstick smackers.
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« Reply #1809 on: December 30, 2014, 01:09:27 PM »

411 total 180's so far.  

That bet of under 599 could be in trouble.  

There could be a fair few 180's today.  

I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted?

That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are

13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages:

Last 16
(7)   Michael van Gerwen   4 V 3   Gary Anderson   (12)
(3)   Adrian Lewis   4 V 1   Mervyn King   (3)
(7)   James Wade   4 V 0   Devon Petersen   (3)
(7)   Peter Wright   4 V 3   Michael Smith   (10)
(6)   Wes Newton   4 V 1   Robert Thornton   (5)
(5)   Simon Whitlock   4 V 0   Kevin Painter   (2)
(6)   Ian White   4 V 3   Richie Burnett   (4)
(6)   Mark Webster   4 V 3   Raymond van Barneveld   (8)
        
Quarter Final
(6)   Peter Wright   5 V 4   Wes Newton   (12)
(15)   Simon Whitlock   5 V 4   Ian White   (12)
(9)   Michael van Gerwen   5 V 3   Mark Webster   (4)
(7)   Adrian Lewis   5 V 1   James Wade   (6)
        
Semi Final
(5)   Peter Wright   6 V 2   Simon Whitlock   (6)
(6)   Michael van Gerwen   6 V 0   Adrian Lewis   (6)
        
Final
(16)   Michael van Gerwen   7 V 4   Peter Wright   (6)


Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example.

I think you're being a wee bit selective there as you would imagine he'll get more than Wrights 6 whereas the other finalist looks like being MVG or Anderson who will not be far off 16.
The semi final numbers for last year are also low.
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« Reply #1810 on: December 30, 2014, 01:15:12 PM »

I think we will see north of 610.  Obviously that's no good me piping up with that now when the bet is placed. 

I really don't have an indepth knowledge of Darts outside say the top 8 players.  I find myself peddling around trying to find some opponents to value bet but that's about it. 

I think we could see plenty of max's in the VDV v Deano match and even Ando v Reyes. 
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« Reply #1811 on: December 30, 2014, 01:24:09 PM »

411 total 180's so far.  

That bet of under 599 could be in trouble.  

There could be a fair few 180's today.  

I make it 406. Where have you got that number from or have I miscounted?

That's a bet on TfT, but it's largely dependent on who's left and how close the matches are

13 matches left: 6 last 16 games, 4 quarters, two semis and the final. Here's last year's later stages:

Last 16
(7)   Michael van Gerwen   4 V 3   Gary Anderson   (12)
(3)   Adrian Lewis   4 V 1   Mervyn King   (3)
(7)   James Wade   4 V 0   Devon Petersen   (3)
(7)   Peter Wright   4 V 3   Michael Smith   (10)
(6)   Wes Newton   4 V 1   Robert Thornton   (5)
(5)   Simon Whitlock   4 V 0   Kevin Painter   (2)
(6)   Ian White   4 V 3   Richie Burnett   (4)
(6)   Mark Webster   4 V 3   Raymond van Barneveld   (8)
        
Quarter Final
(6)   Peter Wright   5 V 4   Wes Newton   (12)
(15)   Simon Whitlock   5 V 4   Ian White   (12)
(9)   Michael van Gerwen   5 V 3   Mark Webster   (4)
(7)   Adrian Lewis   5 V 1   James Wade   (6)
        
Semi Final
(5)   Peter Wright   6 V 2   Simon Whitlock   (6)
(6)   Michael van Gerwen   6 V 0   Adrian Lewis   (6)
        
Final
(16)   Michael van Gerwen   7 V 4   Peter Wright   (6)


Taylor is the obvious name missing there and he won't be getting 16 180s in the final, for example.

I think you're being a wee bit selective there as you would imagine he'll get more than Wrights 6 whereas the other finalist looks like being MVG or Anderson who will not be far off 16.
The semi final numbers for last year are also low.

Quite possibly, teacake. Short term variance is going to be pretty wild over 13 matches.

I'm just saying the under 600 bet isn't in as bad shape as it looks.
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« Reply #1812 on: December 30, 2014, 02:14:42 PM »

Would be impressed if Wright could top how ridic he looks today!
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« Reply #1813 on: December 30, 2014, 02:18:10 PM »

Would be impressed if Wright could top how ridic he looks today!

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« Reply #1814 on: December 30, 2014, 02:29:27 PM »

Be nice if Anderson turned up here and made it a quick 4-0, not like I've had a muggy acca or anything.  aftertiming
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