Darts Betting and discussion

[arbboy]

Sanctions surely?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/35024363

There have been several dodgy matches in this event.  Taylor have a couple of really dodgy looking draws back in the day when Taylor had the league locked up.  I remember one against Barney when he was 7-3 up and it finished 7-7 and Taylor was all smiles.  Never seen him look so happy coughing up a lead like that to an arch rival.  Def looked like Hearn had sorted the draw to keep the league semi interesting to sell tickets for their return game later in the year.

[Teacake]

I was sitting as close as you can get to the oche that night directly behind the players and you could see Anderson was absolutely raging and rightly so the crowd were an absolute disgrace. It's a tricky one, there's no way he set out to lose the game that night but he was 3-0 up when the coins started coming down and lost 8-3. To me it looked like he was so angry and embarrassed that he lost the plot and just wanted off stage. He's now given a typical thick darts player interview where he's embellished what happened without thinking about the potential consequences.

I'm pretty sure there's a fair bit of bent coups in the darts I'm fairly sure this wasn't one of them.

I've never been back to the darts since and can't see me going back anytime soon, Glasgow should have been taken off the circuit for at least a year after that night.

[The Camel]

I was sitting as close as you can get to the oche that night directly behind the players and you could see Anderson was absolutely raging and rightly so the crowd were an absolute disgrace. It's a tricky one, there's no way he set out to lose the game that night but he was 3-0 up when the coins started coming down and lost 8-3. To me it looked like he was so angry and embarrassed that he lost the plot and just wanted off stage. He's now given a typical thick darts player interview where he's embellished what happened without thinking about the potential consequences.

I'm pretty sure there's a fair bit of bent coups in the darts I'm fairly sure this wasn't one of them.

I've never been back to the darts since and can't see me going back anytime soon, Glasgow should have been taken off the circuit for at least a year after that night.

I knew that a bent coup was happening, but the idiot involved played really well early and got into a big lead.

With his oppoenent playing terribly, he had to average about 75 to let him back into the match.

Still at 5-4 the player who was supposed to lose had a 54 checkout to win.

He hit a big 9 (instead of 14) and a big 20 (5) to make sure he didn't get a shot at a double and luckily his opponent made a fairly hard checkout.

In the final leg, he didn't hit a score bigger than 60.

Disgusting to watch.

[arbboy]

I was sitting as close as you can get to the oche that night directly behind the players and you could see Anderson was absolutely raging and rightly so the crowd were an absolute disgrace. It's a tricky one, there's no way he set out to lose the game that night but he was 3-0 up when the coins started coming down and lost 8-3. To me it looked like he was so angry and embarrassed that he lost the plot and just wanted off stage. He's now given a typical thick darts player interview where he's embellished what happened without thinking about the potential consequences.

I'm pretty sure there's a fair bit of bent coups in the darts I'm fairly sure this wasn't one of them.

I've never been back to the darts since and can't see me going back anytime soon, Glasgow should have been taken off the circuit for at least a year after that night.

I knew that a bent coup was happening, but the idiot involved played really well early and got into a big lead.

With his oppoenent playing terribly, he had to average about 75 to let him back into the match.

Still at 5-4 the player who was supposed to lose had a 54 checkout to win.

He hit a big 9 (instead of 14) and a big 20 (5) to make sure he didn't get a shot at a double and luckily his opponent made a fairly hard checkout.

In the final leg, he didn't hit a score bigger than 60.

Disgusting to watch.

It was like a bent coup that wasn't bent for gambling purposes though.  It was bent because Ando is a top guy (far too nice at times in the past stopping him having the killer instinct) really felt sorry for Lewis.  I think it would be really harsh if anything was thrown at him for this by the PDC. 

[KitKeeper]

I was sitting as close as you can get to the oche that night directly behind the players and you could see Anderson was absolutely raging and rightly so the crowd were an absolute disgrace. It's a tricky one, there's no way he set out to lose the game that night but he was 3-0 up when the coins started coming down and lost 8-3. To me it looked like he was so angry and embarrassed that he lost the plot and just wanted off stage. He's now given a typical thick darts player interview where he's embellished what happened without thinking about the potential consequences.

I'm pretty sure there's a fair bit of bent coups in the darts I'm fairly sure this wasn't one of them.

I've never been back to the darts since and can't see me going back anytime soon, Glasgow should have been taken off the circuit for at least a year after that night.

I knew that a bent coup was happening, but the idiot involved played really well early and got into a big lead.

With his oppoenent playing terribly, he had to average about 75 to let him back into the match.

Still at 5-4 the player who was supposed to lose had a 54 checkout to win.

He hit a big 9 (instead of 14) and a big 20 (5) to make sure he didn't get a shot at a double and luckily his opponent made a fairly hard checkout.

In the final leg, he didn't hit a score bigger than 60.

Disgusting to watch.

It was like a bent coup that wasn't bent for gambling purposes though.  It was bent because Ando is a top guy (far too nice at times in the past stopping him having the killer instinct) really felt sorry for Lewis.  I think it would be really harsh if anything was thrown at him for this by the PDC. 

No chance.

He's one of the PDC poster boys and current WC. Barry won't do a thing.

Will be the usual sweep it under the carpet job.

You can bet your bottom dollar if this was a third tier player like Kevin Painter or something, the book would be thrown.

[McGlashan]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

[The Camel]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

Have you got a link to where he said that?

[arbboy]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

Have you got a link to where he said that?

I think McG is taking the piss.  I assume he is.

[McGlashan]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

Have you got a link to where he said that?

I think McG is taking the piss.  I assume he is.

Confirmed made up.

Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat.

[The Camel]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

Have you got a link to where he said that?

I think McG is taking the piss.  I assume he is.

Confirmed made up.

Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat.

A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose.

I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers.

[Omm]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

Have you got a link to where he said that?

I think McG is taking the piss.  I assume he is.

Confirmed made up.

Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat.

A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose.

I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers.

Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased.

[arbboy]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

Have you got a link to where he said that?

I think McG is taking the piss.  I assume he is.

Confirmed made up.

Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat.

A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose.

I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers.

Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased.

It is just sheer naivety on Ando's part.  He isn't the brightest button in the box.  He was just generally talking about the incident without even thinking about the implications because there were no dodgy betting patterns on it.  He wasn't involved in any coup because it was a spur of the moment thing.  Think it would be very harsh if the book was thrown at him.  It isn't going to happen though with him being WC.  If it could be proved there were dodgy betting patterns on it then it is a totally different matter but i doubt there was. 

If you knew it was a bent coup half way through the game then you had a max bet on it in running right?  Or are you only saying this after the event?

He would have been more severely punished if he refused to play on the night imo.

[The Camel]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

Have you got a link to where he said that?

I think McG is taking the piss.  I assume he is.

Confirmed made up.

Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat.

A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose.

I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers.

Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased.

It is just sheer naivety on Ando's part.  He isn't the brightest button in the box.  He was just generally talking about the incident without even thinking about the implications because there were no dodgy betting patterns on it.  He wasn't involved in any coup because it was a spur of the moment thing.  Think it would be very harsh if the book was thrown at him.  It isn't going to happen though with him being WC.  If it could be proved there were dodgy betting patterns on it then it is a totally different matter but i doubt there was. 

If you knew it was a bent coup half way through the game then you had a max bet on it in running right?  Or are you only saying this after the event?

He would have been more severely punished if he refused to play on the night imo.

I don't think it was a "bent coup" but he was clearly not trying to win. Anyone who had a bet would be entitled to be furious.

A pro sportsman should always put in his best effort.

As Omm said, if he felt that badly about what was happening he should have walked off, not stopped trying.

[Omm]

Gary probably shouldn't of done it but it was a great display of gamesmanship and it goes to show the excellent sort of characters we have here in the Premier League of Darts.

- Wazza "earn with" Hearn

Have you got a link to where he said that?

I think McG is taking the piss.  I assume he is.

Confirmed made up.

Gary's a good lad though, it's not as if he intended to cheat.

A pro sportsman shouldn't be losing on purpose.

I don't like this story as it is, if I'd had a monkey on Anderson to win that match (and home advantage for Scottish darts players when they are playing the English is often underrated by bookies) I would be spitting feathers.

Have to agree with Keith on this, as much as I love Gary Anderson it just not on and he should be serverly punished for it. If he felt that strongly about it at the time he should have refused to play. Any statement from Lewis on it? doubt he will be pleased.

It is just sheer naivety on Ando's part.  He isn't the brightest button in the box.  He was just generally talking about the incident without even thinking about the implications because there were no dodgy betting patterns on it.  He wasn't involved in any coup because it was a spur of the moment thing.  Think it would be very harsh if the book was thrown at him.  It isn't going to happen though with him being WC.  If it could be proved there were dodgy betting patterns on it then it is a totally different matter but i doubt there was. 

If you knew it was a bent coup half way through the game then you had a max bet on it in running right?  Or are you only saying this after the event?

He would have been more severely punished if he refused to play on the night imo.

I get what you are saying but just because it was spur of the moment does not make it alright. The punishment needs to fit the crime (Life for Murder not for manslaughter sort of thing) so maybe not throwing the book at him but surely doing nothing should not be an option either.  Also I can't see that him being WC should make a difference (I can agree it probably does but shouldn't).

As for if I knew it was a bent coup I'd have a max bet in running (I think that's what you are saying), about a year ago I probably would have done but recently I've started getting quite strong feelings and opinions on people doing the right thing and being less selfish for the greater good of society, I think I'm growing up. Whole different can of worms really but to answer your question id like to think I wouldn't for the sake of my own moral compass. Each to their own of course.

[DMorgan]

Sports are an entertainment product first and betting events second imo