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MANTIS01
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 10:20:58 AM »
Bishops have historical lineage dating back to the original Twelve Apostles. They represent those first twelve disciples. Who were all men. If Jesus chose all men for these roles, and you follow the teachings of Jesus, it's kinda tough to overrule him I imagine. Being an Apostle or Bishop is like being a member of Augusta National.
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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Quote from: MANTIS01 on November 22, 2012, 10:20:58 AM
Bishops have historical lineage dating back to the original Twelve Apostles. They represent those first twelve disciples. Who were all men. If Jesus chose all men for these roles, and you follow the teachings of Jesus, it's kinda tough to overrule him I imagine. Being an Apostle or Bishop is like being a member of Augusta National.
....or the blonde clique
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 11:26:10 AM »
Quote from: bobAlike on November 22, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in any other workplace ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
They are not breaking the law. Something was passed years ago stating that they were exempt from that particular law.
which is being threatened to be revoked if they don't change their stand on women's bishops.
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titaniumbean
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Equity means nothing.
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ha
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Why not women bishops? If I’m to be told a fairy story I’d prefer it to come from someone who looks like my mum.
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the sicilian
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 06:35:51 PM »
Quote from: MintTrav on November 22, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in
any other workplace
ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
There are plenty of jobs that are exempted from the sex discrimination laws.
And they are?
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the sicilian
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 06:36:52 PM »
Quote from: bobAlike on November 22, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in any other workplace ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
They are not breaking the law. Something was passed years ago stating that they were exempt from that particular law.
Lol awesome... How they get away with that?
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MintTrav
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 07:40:11 PM »
Quote from: the sicilian on November 22, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on November 22, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in
any other workplace
ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
There are plenty of jobs that are exempted from the sex discrimination laws.
And they are?
I'm sure you can think of them or look them up yourself. They are generally just common-sense things. Here's a few - toilet cleaner, actor, bra-fitter, stripper, prostitute, some welfare jobs, sperm donor, athlete, model, bishop.
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 07:41:11 PM »
Quote from: the sicilian on November 22, 2012, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 22, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in any other workplace ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
They are not breaking the law. Something was passed years ago stating that they were exempt from that particular law.
Lol awesome... How they get away with that?
Their defence team was awesome, there was 12 of them.
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kukushkin88
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 07:46:22 PM »
Quote from: MintTrav on November 22, 2012, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 22, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on November 22, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in
any other workplace
ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
There are plenty of jobs that are exempted from the sex discrimination laws.
And they are?
I'm sure you can think of them or look them up yourself. They are generally just common-sense things. Here's a few - toilet cleaner, actor, bra-fitter, stripper, prostitute, some welfare jobs, sperm donor, athlete, model, bishop.
At most 2 of these are right, including bishop.
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the sicilian
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 08:09:20 PM »
Quote from: bobAlike on November 22, 2012, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 22, 2012, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 22, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in any other workplace ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
They are not breaking the law. Something was passed years ago stating that they were exempt from that particular law.
Lol awesome... How they get away with that?
Their defence team was awesome, there was 12 of them.
I heard one of them was working for the other side though
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 22, 2012, 08:23:37 PM »
Quote from: the sicilian on November 22, 2012, 08:09:20 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 22, 2012, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 22, 2012, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on November 22, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in any other workplace ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
They are not breaking the law. Something was passed years ago stating that they were exempt from that particular law.
Lol awesome... How they get away with that?
Their defence team was awesome, there was 12 of them.
I heard one of them was working for the other side though
Yeah, but he was forgiven.
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gouty
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 23, 2012, 01:06:24 AM »
Quote from: Jon MW on November 21, 2012, 12:48:19 PM
It was interesting that the Bishops and the Clergy easily passed the 2/3 threshold needed and it was only the laity that failed it.
Probably highlights that there are plenty of intelligent people on the paid staff of the church - it's just the followers who are a bit of a problem
This is quite correct I think. And if you listen to some corners a lot of them were voting against on a sort of protest at the voting structure. It's a shoe in when the next Synod or hierachy term starts.
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 23, 2012, 08:35:12 AM »
Quote from: kukushkin88 on November 22, 2012, 07:46:22 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on November 22, 2012, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 22, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on November 22, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: the sicilian on November 21, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I think my main point is arnt they breaking tha actual law... Bishops are employed by the church but they blatantly say you can't have this Job because ur a woman ? Try that in
any other workplace
ur be at tribunal quicker than u can say u got a sexy Rse in that skirt...
There are plenty of jobs that are exempted from the sex discrimination laws.
And they are?
I'm sure you can think of them or look them up yourself. They are generally just common-sense things. Here's a few - toilet cleaner, actor, bra-fitter, stripper, prostitute, some welfare jobs, sperm donor, athlete, model, bishop.
At most 2 of these are right, including bishop.
I've tried to work out which ones you think are correct and which you don't, but I can't do it. I'm pretty sure you're guessing anyway - "at most 2" is a way of keeping your options open. So which ones?
You're wrong anyway. I checked with the Equality & Human Rights Commission yesterday and all the ones I listed are accepted by them as bona-fide exceptions in the Sex Discrimination Act 1975. Some other exceptions listed are beautician, bodyguard, Halal butcher, transsexual reassignment counsellor and gay nightclub pole-dancer.
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kukushkin88
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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November 23, 2012, 08:49:25 AM »
You checked with the Equality and Human Rights Commission and they confirmed that there is legislation in place to stop women becoming sperm donors?
Also model, athlete, stripper???
I was going for certain types of Welfare Officer as the other legitimate one but I´ll happily admit that it´s based on assumptions that I made based on some knowledge of this piece of legislation, rather than any detailed knowledge of specifically this element of it.
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Jon MW
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Re: Women bishops... Church says no
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Quote from: kukushkin88 on November 23, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
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Also model, athlete, stripper???
...
Are you saying that if you wanted to open a strip joint you would expect the law to insist that you hired some male strippers if they applied for the job?
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