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« Reply #105 on: February 17, 2013, 05:14:28 PM » |
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Heard he had a dead-leg before the game, but then they said it was his shoulder. But apparently not out for long, and should be back for the next match.
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« Reply #106 on: February 20, 2013, 06:13:32 PM » |
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« Reply #107 on: February 20, 2013, 06:20:56 PM » |
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I think they're trying to remove the badly done shoulder-charges (where the elbow or arm strikes the head), but it's interesting that a lot of players and coaches voted for it to stay at the start of the year. It's similar to the 'two-footed' tackle in football I think. |
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« Reply #108 on: February 20, 2013, 06:35:27 PM » |
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I think they're trying to remove the badly done shoulder-charges (where the elbow or arm strikes the head), but it's interesting that a lot of players and coaches voted for it to stay at the start of the year. It's similar to the 'two-footed' tackle in football I think. Part of the culture of the game. Worst part of League players coming into Union sides was seeing these tackles happen (usually badly/illegal in union). I don't really watch enough RL to have a real qualified opinion but from a rugby sense anything that contributes to injury somewhat unnecessarily should be outlawed right? I can't see shoulder charges being a particularly exciting/important part of the game, but maybe im wrong. |
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« Reply #109 on: February 20, 2013, 06:39:07 PM » |
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I think they're trying to remove the badly done shoulder-charges (where the elbow or arm strikes the head), but it's interesting that a lot of players and coaches voted for it to stay at the start of the year. It's similar to the 'two-footed' tackle in football I think. Part of the culture of the game. Worst part of League players coming into Union sides was seeing these tackles happen (usually badly/illegal in union). I don't really watch enough RL to have a real qualified opinion but from a rugby sense anything that contributes to injury somewhat unnecessarily should be outlawed right? I can't see shoulder charges being a particularly exciting/important part of the game, but maybe im wrong. I can't think of (m)any injuries from shoulder-charges that weren't high. High-tackles aren't legal anyway, and so why ban something else? Some hits in rugby league are very exciting/important: (That's not actually a shoulder-charge imo, as Leuluai was attempting to put his arms round the other player as he made the tackle). |
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« Reply #110 on: February 20, 2013, 06:44:49 PM » |
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Yeah of course but I'd agree that wasn't a shoulder charge. I think the general nature of the shoulder charge leads to it being somewhat high though. Meh, I can definitely see myself being against it if I was a league fan in a lot of circumstances. Lets hope it doesn't affect the sport too much.
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« Reply #111 on: February 20, 2013, 06:46:54 PM » |
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Yeah of course but I'd agree that wasn't a shoulder charge. I think the general nature of the shoulder charge leads to it being somewhat high though. Meh, I can definitely see myself being against it if I was a league fan in a lot of circumstances. Lets hope it doesn't affect the sport too much.
It won't affect it that much. But there are definitely other things that are more dangerous in the game that are already illegal, but players are getting away with these and not getting bans that are proper punishment for their crimes - so there's no real deterrent. |
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« Reply #112 on: February 20, 2013, 06:47:24 PM » |
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I did tell you Rangi was a naughty boy and got away with one, hence they won the game and took out a player. As a result of that numb nut thinking it was ok to shoulder charge someones head this happened.
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« Reply #113 on: February 20, 2013, 06:49:32 PM » |
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I did tell you Rangi was a naughty boy and got away with one, hence they won the game and took out a player. As a result of that numb nut thinking it was ok to shoulder charge someones head this happened.
But he hit Hardaker in the head. Chase has smashed a player across the jaw previously with his elbow. That's also illegal and stopping shoulder-charges won't stop him doing something illegal that hurts another player in the future. |
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« Reply #114 on: February 20, 2013, 06:53:21 PM » |
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yeah i dunno if its a good decison or not but if players do silly things to peoples heads nothing suprises me.
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« Reply #115 on: February 20, 2013, 06:55:20 PM » |
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yeah i dunno if its a good decison or not but if players do silly things to peoples heads nothing suprises me.
They still will though. Morley will continue to throw high shots, and Chase will do what he does. Outlawing shoulder-charges seems to be solving a problem that doesn't really exist (imo). But not going to lose any sleep over it. |
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« Reply #116 on: February 20, 2013, 09:42:52 PM » |
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Yet another crap rule for the refs to misinterpret. Just keep contact with the head outlawed and give out long bans to those that get it wrong and take someone out dangerously.
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« Reply #117 on: February 20, 2013, 10:08:29 PM » |
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Yet another crap rule for the refs to misinterpret. Just keep contact with the head outlawed and give out long bans to those that get it wrong and take someone out dangerously.
I blame the Aussies
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« Reply #118 on: February 21, 2013, 03:48:47 PM » |
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Think the bookies really fancy Melbourne tomorrow. Leeds are 15/8 ish. Maybe a small wager on Mel  Leeds FT 8/1 to keep me entertained. |
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« Reply #119 on: February 22, 2013, 02:24:57 PM » |
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