School shooting in US

[Woodsey]

There are a couple of other forums I go on where this is being debated heavily, there is a lot of US posters on them. Pretty much all of them bar 3 or 4 are defending their policy on guns in the US. That pretty much says it all really, nothing will really change, there just isn't the public support to change it.

Funnily enough nearly all the anti guns people opposing it on those threads are Brits with a few other euro's thrown in.

[George2Loose]

Do people think gun control would help? Or make things much harder for police by driving the gun trade underground?

It would certainly make it harder for a 20-year old kid to get hold of three of them.

Exactly. It might take years for gun control to take proper effect but you have to start somewhere. As mentioned though- Americans believe it's their right to bear arms so doubtful it will ever happen. Pretty sad

[snoopy1239]

There's a small chance that three shooting sprees in the space of 12 months might make some reconsider, and those against guns may protest harder than before.

[Woodsey]

There's a small chance that three shooting sprees in the space of 12 months might make some reconsider, and those against guns may protest harder than before.

I bet there will be some small changes, but I doubt they will make any difference.

[The Camel]

Banning semi automatic weapons would be a great start.

[kinboshi]

The states with tighter gun control have fewer murders involving guns. Of course, this could be correlation rather than causation, but to think nothing can be done to reduce the number of killings by guns in the US is flawed imo.

[Woodsey]

The states with tighter gun control have fewer murders involving guns. Of course, this could be correlation rather than causation, but to think nothing can be done to reduce the number of killings by guns in the US is flawed imo.

But there is a big difference between what could be done and will ACTUALLY be done.

[kinboshi]

The states with tighter gun control have fewer murders involving guns. Of course, this could be correlation rather than causation, but to think nothing can be done to reduce the number of killings by guns in the US is flawed imo.

But there is a big difference between what could be done and will ACTUALLY be done.

That's a different argument. 

Obama has hinted at stronger gun regulation in the past, and now he doesn't have a re-election to worry about he might actually decide to do something.  As has been mentioned, regulation on automatic assault rifles would be one of the easy first steps. Then there's controls on concealed weapons.

[kinboshi]

Interesting article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/nine-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-the-united-states/

[kinboshi]

More interesting figures:

[Woodsey]

The states with tighter gun control have fewer murders involving guns. Of course, this could be correlation rather than causation, but to think nothing can be done to reduce the number of killings by guns in the US is flawed imo.

But there is a big difference between what could be done and will ACTUALLY be done.

That's a different argument. 

Obama has hinted at stronger gun regulation in the past, and now he doesn't have a re-election to worry about he might actually decide to do something.  As has been mentioned, regulation on automatic assault rifles would be one of the easy first steps. Then there's controls on concealed weapons.

Not really is all part of the equation you have to put in the mix. Is all well and dandy us bleating from over here, but they simply don't think like us over there.

[Woodsey]

More interesting figures:

You make it sound like they don't know any of this and it hasn't already been presented to the top bods repeatedly.

[kinboshi]

The states with tighter gun control have fewer murders involving guns. Of course, this could be correlation rather than causation, but to think nothing can be done to reduce the number of killings by guns in the US is flawed imo.

But there is a big difference between what could be done and will ACTUALLY be done.

That's a different argument. 

Obama has hinted at stronger gun regulation in the past, and now he doesn't have a re-election to worry about he might actually decide to do something.  As has been mentioned, regulation on automatic assault rifles would be one of the easy first steps. Then there's controls on concealed weapons.

Not really is all part of the equation you have to put in the mix. Is all well and dandy us bleating from over here, but they simply don't think like us over there.

Who doesn't?  I love the way you're basing what ALL Americans think based on the views of some.

There ARE states with stricter gun-control laws.  Would you be surprised if some of these laws aren't spread nationwide?

[kinboshi]

(via Eck):

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/12/newtown-and-the-madness-of-guns.html

Does seem that some Americans are thinking along the same lines as us 'rational' Europeans.

[Woodsey]

The states with tighter gun control have fewer murders involving guns. Of course, this could be correlation rather than causation, but to think nothing can be done to reduce the number of killings by guns in the US is flawed imo.

But there is a big difference between what could be done and will ACTUALLY be done.

That's a different argument.  

Obama has hinted at stronger gun regulation in the past, and now he doesn't have a re-election to worry about he might actually decide to do something.  As has been mentioned, regulation on automatic assault rifles would be one of the easy first steps. Then there's controls on concealed weapons.

Not really is all part of the equation you have to put in the mix. Is all well and dandy us bleating from over here, but they simply don't think like us over there.

Who doesn't?  I love the way you're basing what ALL Americans think based on the views of some.

There ARE states with stricter gun-control laws.  Would you be surprised if some of these laws aren't spread nationwide?

No, I just doubt they will make any difference, people who want guns will still have them one way or another.