DTD February £150,000 GTD £300 Deepstack + Online Day 1A Special!

[david3103]

Agree h. Also is it possible to have a time bank?

definitely possible on the network

[Nicola Dusk Till Dawn]

Hi Guys

Full list of day 1A players, already seen a few re-enter today

Adam   Forsyth
ALAN   TADDEI
alan   gray
Alan   Brown
Amjid   Parveez
Andrew   Hulme
Andrew   Sherwood
ben   vinson
Ben   Raven
ceri   rees
CHRIS   CANCELLIERE
Chris   Sly
Christopher   Goodson
Daniel   Hide
Danish   Gandhi
david   amos
David   Penly
david   maudlin
David   Harris
david   mccoy
David   L'Honore
David   Gould
Derek   Kavanagh
Dewi   James
Dinarte   Araujo De Sousa
Dominic   Smith
Fangzhou   Liu
Frank   Jones
Ganesh   Jayaraman
gary   jones
George   Clyde-Smith
Guy   Johnson
hugh   black
james   buckley
James   Clarke
James   Moult
Jason   Barton
Jiri   Sladkovsky
john   charalambous
john   bousfield
john   cairns
John   Duggan
Jon   Hayes
Jonathan   Rees
Joseph   Icarangal
KEVIN   WIBBERLEY
Kyriacos   dionysiou
lee arun   dixon
Liam   Batey
mark   wates
mark   james
mark   lane
Mike   Jones
Nicholas Tony   Fellone
Paul   Garnham
Paul   HO
Paul   Jenkinson
peter   haslam
Philip   Hughes
RAMAZANALI   ABBASSI
Richard   Turner
Richard   Garner
richard   norfolk
Richard   Blacklock
Richard   Sheils
Richard   Pearson
Richard   Trigg
Ross   Johnson
Rupinder   Bedi
Sarbjit   Kular
Sean   Robertson
Simon   Higgins
Simon   Hemsworth
Stephen   Bantick
Stephen   Ayres
Steve   Vladar
stuart   fox
Thomas   Mccready
Thomas   High
Tim   Slater
Tom   Langley
Tonino   Montesanti
trevor   pearson
Waheed   Ashraf
Wahid   Patel

[LB44]

Think the stacks aren't as rediculous as people made out.

Think Matt nailed it on the head, we just saw so many more hands which gave us more opportunity to cooler somebody.

I had 230k and was cruising and got it in with nut house and got paid off to go to 550k and Ben got too set over middle set for 350k stacks. That could easily happen live, we just saw 10x more hands for this to happen.

Improvements for next time imo:

1. Time bank
2. 15 min clock
3. Clock to stop at level 16
4. An animation of TD Ryan chipping up every few levels.

All in all, an awesome idea. I'm far better online than live, so maybe this is my ticket into day 2's at DTD haha

[robyong]

Guys

Please can you advise me;

We measured the hands per level for Thursdays day 1a online and Fridays day 1b live:

Online day 1a - 18.33 hands per 20 min level (54.99 per hour)

Live day 1b - 16.14 hands per 40 min level (24.21per hour)

The live numbers are in line with previous results of MTT hands per hour (24 average per hour) that we have done before with DTD dealers after they have completed their training period.

This means in terms of hands per hour a 40 min clock at DTD is equal to a 17.6 min clock online. Therefore, the online players who made it through were dealt 35 hands more over the 16 levels than the live players. Having a time bank online would make the hands per level even closer. 35 hands is a significant amount, it's over 2 more levels of hands seen by the online players, however, this is not as big a differential that some knowledgable online players have been quoting on here.

So, please can any online MTT specialists advise why the general consensus is that a 40 min live level is equivent to a 12-15 online level - not a 17.4 min online level? On the results of our data,  when converting a live clock to an online equivalent, I should be multiplying the live clock by 0.44 ie. 24.21 live hands/hr divided by 54.99 online hands/hr.

It's really important we get this right if we are to do this again so advice is really appreciated.

Thanks, Rob

[david3103]

If live players made decisions in the same time period as online the numbers would be closer.

[smurf]

Guys

Please can you advise me;

We measured the hands per level for Thursdays day 1a online and Fridays day 1b live:

Online day 1a - 18.33 hands per 20 min level (54.99 per hour)

Live day 1b - 16.14 hands per 40 min level (24.21per hour)

The live numbers are in line with previous results of MTT hands per hour (24 average per hour) that we have done before with DTD dealers after they have completed their training period.

This means in terms of hands per hour a 40 min clock at DTD is equal to a 17.6 min clock online. Therefore, the online players who made it through were dealt 35 hands more over the 16 levels than the live players. Having a time bank online would make the hands per level even closer. 35 hands is a significant amount, it's over 2 more levels of hands seen by the online players, however, this is not as big a differential that some knowledgable online players have been quoting on here.

So, please can any online MTT specialists advise why the general consensus is that a 40 min live level is equivent to a 12-15 online level - not a 17.4 min online level? On the results of our data,  when converting a live clock to an online equivalent, I should be multiplying the live clock by 0.44 ie. 24.21 live hands/hr divided by 54.99 online hands/hr.

It's really important we get this right if we are to do this again so advice is really appreciated.

Thanks, Rob

The maths seems fine, assuming you are looking to play the same amount of hands the only figure that needs working out is the amount of hands on average per level. It seems online is approx 1 min a hand and live 2.5 min a hand so anywhere at 16-18 min levels should equal it out - you'll never get it spot on.
With the  Grand Prix having 30 min live levels i would calculate it as a 12 min online clock.

[George2Loose]

1pm start tomorrow right?

[smashedagain]

1pm start tomorrow right?

gl Trigg

[typhoon13]

Guys

Please can you advise me;

We measured the hands per level for Thursdays day 1a online and Fridays day 1b live:

Online day 1a - 18.33 hands per 20 min level (54.99 per hour)

Live day 1b - 16.14 hands per 40 min level (24.21per hour)

The live numbers are in line with previous results of MTT hands per hour (24 average per hour) that we have done before with DTD dealers after they have completed their training period.

This means in terms of hands per hour a 40 min clock at DTD is equal to a 17.6 min clock online. Therefore, the online players who made it through were dealt 35 hands more over the 16 levels than the live players. Having a time bank online would make the hands per level even closer. 35 hands is a significant amount, it's over 2 more levels of hands seen by the online players, however, this is not as big a differential that some knowledgable online players have been quoting on here.

So, please can any online MTT specialists advise why the general consensus is that a 40 min live level is equivent to a 12-15 online level - not a 17.4 min online level? On the results of our data,  when converting a live clock to an online equivalent, I should be multiplying the live clock by 0.44 ie. 24.21 live hands/hr divided by 54.99 online hands/hr.

It's really important we get this right if we are to do this again so advice is really appreciated.

Thanks, Rob

When you look at the data and chip stacks from day 1a and 1b there is no big difference, so dropping the online clock to 17-18 mins should sort it.

I never expected DTD to be too far out in the first  place.

[maccer2613]

If live players made decisions in the same time period as online the numbers would be closer.

This is surely the main difference based on the figures from the 2 days?

[TL900]

18mins and a timebank, bingo

Online day1 <3

[BorntoBubble]

18 mins and a time bank would work. Would stop online getting so short of players so soon and a few more runners online would stoop it going below say 16 remaining and then in my opinion you have no problems. Nice to see the figures wrong. Haters are always going to hate but DTD are the only place that put these new things out there and full marks to them for trying!

[EvilPie]

madone05   730834      Ben   Vinson
LB44   501660      Liam   Batey
stringbet   312897      Rupinder   Bedi
Eclipse001   281098      Philip   Hughes
vans2   254715      Fangzhou   Liu
cairnsy949   230425      John   Cairns
josephic   162262      Joseph   Icarangal
degsy   76109      Wahid   Patel

I don't think these stacks are particularly crazy to be fair.

Last month someone had 400k but with a level less to do it in.  Whilst I'd expect Ben to stay at the top I wouldn't be surprised to see a different name in 2nd spot when we get to day 2.

I don't always get it right but when I do it makes me happy.

I was surprised to see how close DTD got with the number of hands. I thought it'd be about 15 mins but it looks like 18's the magic number.

You'll still get similar results though purely because it's online and not live.

Why do people who offer constructive criticism get called 'haters' by the way?

Nobody on here has said anything hateful from what I've seen, they've just offered thoughts and opinions.

[david3103]

Does playing 10 handed online, 9 handed live make any meaningful difference?

[LB44]

That's really surprising to find the average live play is 2min 30 seconds per hand. I thought it would be alot more.

18 mins with a time bank would make it pretty spot on then.

I started off playing my usual scedual on stars but had to really reduce the number of tables because of the no time bank. Plus it was a £338 bullet so obviously wanted to keep an eye on that more. I couldn't find an option to make the DTD table pop up when it was my turn it just flashed and I missed a few hands. Am I just being blind and there is an option for this.

Cheers Rob. Great idea.