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« on: January 07, 2013, 01:49:04 AM »

Playing 1/3 PLO at the Vic, 8 handed and I have £2.9k my table image is loose aggressive

Richie's image - Loose aggressive, very competent I've seen him make a few dry Ace plays and river 4 bet bluffs.  

UTG (£3k) (Richie Allen) – Raises to £10
Seat 3 – Call
Seat 4 – Call
Seat 5 – Call
Cut off – Call
Me (BTN)  – Raise to £45 with  
SB - folds
BB – Calls
UTG – Calls
Folds round

Flop  

Checks round to me I bet £100
BB – Folds
UTG – Raises to £220
Me – Flat (Putting him on either AT T8 or 88 (at best I’m chopping at this point)
Turn – 5
UTG bets £270

Now I’m clearly putting Richie on a full house, more then likely T8 as he doesn’t seem to be slowing down nor does he give me any credit for a bigger hand i.e T8 against his 88 so my decision is to call here and call a value bet on the river of around £500- 700, so my decision is for around £900 not £270, hoping to hit an Ace on the river and if he has T8 then good luck to him

I decide to call and call the river if a JKQ or 9 doesn’t come off as this would certainly hit his range.

River is an 8

UTG bets £400

Now this makes my call a lot easier as it’s rare that he would have Quads or even an 8 in his hand here, but the bet seems like he’s trying to milk me, I clearly have a stack to call and because I called the £270 on the turn I possibly would call around £500 - £700 on the river, so this makes me think that he must have me beat the only hand that makes sense is T8 with an Ace in his hand.

I decided to call and stick with my decision on the turn, he had T8A9

So after reconsidering this hand over I think I should always fold the turn as I’m clearly beat here even with my full house, would love some feedback on this one..

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 02:11:52 AM »

I should add previous to this hand I made a 3 bet bluff on the river against him which he considered 4 betting (from our conversation straight after the hand) we both had air and the pot was around 230 he bet 80 on the river I raised to £250 so £560 total on a board of A53 33
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 04:42:14 AM »

Whether to call or fold (or raise) on the turn is of course read/feel/spidey sense dependent, but standard would be to call down vs this particular opponent as you describe him. As played, river is a clear call.

Two rather pedantic comments:

1. Don't put results in initial post.

2. You use the terms 3bet and 4bet wrong. If you make a bet on either the flop, turn or river and are raised this raise is not a 3bet. It is a '2bet' or just a 'raise'. A 3bet would be if you reraised, and a 4bet is if your opponent re-re-raises.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 09:35:03 AM »


Point taken, don't really post on here much and poker is recreation for me so I will get quotes wrong..
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 01:19:11 PM »

I would play the hand exactly as you did, in fact I don't really see anything else you could do tbh.

Like I'm struggling to think of a way to play any street differently, don't like raising the flop, as he's going to call and he WILL have T8 in his calling range if I know Richie A, so you'd be forced to either b/f the turn or check back and then uuumm...arrrrrr guess on the river (would have been easy if you made a house but you might not) hard to know wht to do on flush cards as well - I think i'd be bluffing on flush cards lol but against a range that can have T8 in it its kinda iffy. Defo just call the flop raise for me.

Turn, you beat 88, he can certainly be bluffing, he can certainly have AKJT or a hand like that you cant raise here ofc unless you have a ninja read he has specifically 88 and he MIGHT fold it - you'll likely just iso yourself against T8 lol calling is the only play on the turn really.

River. Meh, now its such a good price, he could just this betsize with AT trying to wriggle you off a chop or some sneaky value, he could be bluffing - I mean OTR you either have a hand to call with or you dont and you're not folding AT+ so its quite a cool bluff-size. I agree though it's looking very value-y but I'd pay it off every time, speshly as Richie is capable of some trickery.

This is just a bit UL how it played out but you certainly did very little wrong
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