Short handed deepstack spot

[TightEnd]

3 left

Payouts are

44300
25100
15100

Stacks are

Button 2.3m
Small blind 9m
Big Blind 8m

Blinds are 60-120k

Button raises to 250k

Small blind makes it 1.2m

Big blind looks down at  


Button is young and active

Small blind is a middle aged live Pro.

We probably think we are the tightest, most solid player at the table. Least likely to make mistakes.

The money is very important to the button

The money is irrelevant to the small blind, in so far as you can tell


What do you do with Jacks, bearing in mind ICM?

[ruud]

How important is the money to us?

[TightEnd]

How important is the money to us?

We are in make up, have 50% of ourself and our backer is commentating, watching every hand

We need a bink

[MANTIS01]

I would jam all day long

[TL900]

Blinds were 100/200k i believe tighty? Or is this just in theory if they were 60/120? So i think the open and the 3bet would have been bigger and you just gota jam imo.

[ruud]

The Button's stack size makes it horrible.

If we fold, the button shoves and is called, then wins, he has 4.6m and we are chipleader. Happy days.
If we fold, the button shoves and the SB folds (unlikely), then we still become a marginal chipleader. Happy days.
If we fold, the button shoves and is called, and loses, we make 10k (5k, as we only have 50%) in real money. Very Happy days!
If we fold, and the button folds, meh, move on.

If we flat call, the button will either shove or fold.
If he folds we must play passive down the streets as the money is so important to us. We are very likely to fold our hand at some point I would imagine. Unhappy.
If he shoves, then the SB shoves, we can fold happy I think.
If he shoves and the SB folds, then we call quite happily.

Or, we raise (and probably all in, cos we ain't folding). If we are called, we are either out or on our way to a massive bink.
They may both fold, which is good.
Or the button calls, which we are fine with.
Or the SB calls, which we are likely not thrilled about, and we may be out of the tournament
Or they both call, which is unlikely to be great, and we could still get knocked out.

GTO says that if we fold, we are happy 3 in 4 times. If we call, we are happy 2 in 3 times. If we raise, we are happy about 3.5 in 6 (3 in 4 at best) times I think, but vitally, the worst outcome means WE ARE OUT.

So, based on all that, I believe the optimal line is to FOLD JACKS three handed.

Not saying I can do this in game mind you.....

[outragous76]

I would 100% peel with the hope that Button jams, and then either iso jam or call depending upon what options we are left with.

If button somehow folds Play hand accordingly post flop

[outragous76]

The Button's stack size makes it horrible incredible for us to make as few mistakes as possible whilst optimising thd chance of busting the shorty

Fyp

[outragous76]

I would 100% peel with the hope that Button jams, and then either iso jam or call depending upon what options we are left with.

If button somehow folds Play hand accordingly post flop

I would consider a call call line if I was 100% certain it would get checked down but doesn't sound like big stack is going to oblige

[pleno1]

just read jj and 3 handed,

just keep raising till you're all in.

[paulhouk03]

Who is the commentator I didn't know who it was

[ruud]

But remember, we are the least likely to make mistakes. The most solid player at the table.

And we are not unhappy if we fold, whatever the outcome.

We could be very unhappy if we do anything else.

This is a very unique spot and I am not advocating folding JJ three handed as a habit by any means, but ICM and this:

How important is the money to us?

We are in make up, have 50% of ourself and our backer is commentating, watching every hand

We need a bink

means it might just be a fold. In fact, I am almost certain it is.

[Marky147]

Think Tom is right Tighty, when this hand played out the blinds were 100/200k.

I thought that the button's stack was around 3m, but can't be 100% without rewatching the stream.

(BTN) opens to 400k (3m+)

(SB) Martyn makes it 1.4m (8.5m)

(BB) Neil looks down at JJ (9m)


Payouts

3rd  £15k
2nd £25k
1st  £44k

[EvilPie]

With the stacks as they are I'd have to call to see what the button does. If he jams and the SB jams I'd have to fold. Obviously calling it off against the short stack.

If the button folds then I probably go bust down the streets unless the board gets a bit nasty.

This being said in the heat of battle I probably wouldn't think like this. Presumably everyone's been in raise/shove/fold mode so when you see JJ 3 handed it's likely to just end up in the middle as quick as possible.

[rfgqqabc]

3 left

Payouts are

44300
25100
15100

Stacks are

Button 2.3m
Small blind 9m
Big Blind 8m

Blinds are 60-120k

Button raises to 250k

Small blind makes it 1.2m

Small blind is a middle aged live Pro.

Sizings seem odd?

I think it all depends on perceived edges after this hand. I could make a much better argument for folding if I had a decent edge and without it is probably best to go the pleno route.