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« on: January 08, 2013, 02:38:36 PM »

Playing 2/5 Villain is Turkish Michael who is a maniac playing £1k

My table image is Loose aggressive, playing a stack of £1.7k My hand   Two Clubs Two Diamonds

I'm in the SB straddled pot

Folds round
Me - Raise £30
BB (Michael) - Calls
UTG - Folds

Flop is  
Me- Check
BB - Check
Turn is  
Me - Check
BB - Check
River -  

Me - £50
BB - Raises to £125
Me - Raise to £325
BB - Pushes all in

What do we do....?
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 02:44:08 PM »

I don't play Omaha (feel free to stop reading here!!) but....

There is £1365 in the middle and it's £675 for you to call.

Do you reckon he has specifically quad more than two times in three here?
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 02:47:48 PM »

bet the flop 100% it's KQ7cc against an aggro player he's gonna find something to continue with here most of the time. you're HU and OOP as well he's gonna have so many pairs and iffy draws to flaot you with as well as he could just attack you...Also when you c/r (which is what you were planning to do...) your hand just looks EXACTLY like KK, or AJT with parsleys.

As played. sigh lol. I always make a habbit of just paying these stupid spots off because they are pretty rare and people are capable of all sorts of silly things. you only have to be wrong and fold once in a while and you're costing yourself a ton of money.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 02:48:35 PM »

I don't play Omaha (feel free to stop reading here!!) but....

There is £1365 in the middle and it's £675 for you to call.

Do you reckon he has specifically quad more than two times in three here?

My thinking was pocket Queens bets the flop to find out where they are, K7 Q7 bet the turn and flat the river, Pocket 8's flats the river 87 may flat the £50 plus there are only two of us in the hand...

Which makes my decision on the river difficult because unless he's gone crazy he can only have Quads here..

Well that was my thinking..
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 02:51:10 PM »

bet the flop 100% it's KQ7cc against an aggro player he's gonna find something to continue with here most of the time. you're HU and OOP as well he's gonna have so many pairs and iffy draws to flaot you with as well as he could just attack you...Also when you c/r (which is what you were planning to do...) your hand just looks EXACTLY like KK, or AJT with parsleys.


Yes I agree, not continuing the flop gets me into trouble most of the time here, the reason I never was exactly to check raise against Michael, building a bigger pot. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 03:00:22 PM »

bet the flop 100% it's KQ7cc against an aggro player he's gonna find something to continue with here most of the time. you're HU and OOP as well he's gonna have so many pairs and iffy draws to flaot you with as well as he could just attack you...Also when you c/r (which is what you were planning to do...) your hand just looks EXACTLY like KK, or AJT with parsleys.


Yes I agree, not continuing the flop gets me into trouble most of the time here, the reason I never was exactly to check raise against Michael, building a bigger pot. 

you 100% build a bigger pot by betting the flop imo.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 03:00:49 PM »

why would he check the flop with QQ or 77, makes no sense.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 03:06:18 PM »

Obviously never folding vs "Turkish Michael the maniac" after you take this line.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 03:07:21 PM »

why would he check the flop with QQ or 77, makes no sense.

Can't see QQ checking the flop, but can see 77 checking the flop as I'm showing strength pre flop, so QQ KK are both in my range.  So he could have taken the line to call but not bet..
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 03:19:53 PM »

Obviously never folding vs "Turkish Michael the maniac" after you take this line.

I think the fact that he knows I know he's a maniac makes my decision a lot harder.. He also knows that I have KK at this point because my raise to £325 told him that. So am I sigh calling it off, or folding here...?
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 03:25:56 PM »

I don't think he'd expect you to chk KK otf, unless it's KK with clubs.

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 03:57:32 PM »

Just why have you checked this flop? Has it been answered?

Since Kildare has replied this thread is probably done with but you really have to bet the flop here.

I assume you either folded or called and saw his 77.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2013, 04:24:50 PM »

Just why have you checked this flop? Has it been answered?

Since Kildare has replied this thread is probably done with but you really have to bet the flop here.

I assume you either folded or called and saw his 77.

I checked to check raise because there's two of us and I have top set with a flush draw, Michael being a maniac usually can't help but bet. 

I really think this was a bad move anyway, and Dave is right I would have been playing my hand face up if it went to plan.  the check on the turn was hoping that Michael caught up.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2013, 04:27:59 PM »

Just why have you checked this flop? Has it been answered?

Since Kildare has replied this thread is probably done with but you really have to bet the flop here.

I assume you either folded or called and saw his 77.

I checked to check raise because there's two of us and I have top set with a flush draw, Michael being a maniac usually can't help but bet. 

I really think this was a bad move anyway, and Dave is right I would have been playing my hand face up if it went to plan.  the check on the turn was hoping that Michael caught up.

Ha! That reminds me of one of THE great truisms in poker.

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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2013, 04:32:33 PM »

But what if he overtakes you?
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