Ian Gascoigne V German Rick - 1-3 Vic

[BangBang]

Gonna give you this hand from Ricks perspective, I wasn’t on the table but watched the hand because I was waiting for Rick to finish so we could eat..

Rick in the BB - £1200

Ian on the BTN - £650ish

Table 60/40 split Recs to Regs

Rick is a poker pro who prefers to grind 1-3 2-5 Omaha live has a degree in Mathematics

Ricks view of Ian is he’s pretty tight, but seems like he has money (because of talk of Deauville and also the company he was engaging with off the table) Ian has mentioned that he has been doing his money on the 1-2 table he was playing on previous to joining the 1-3. past 3 hours he played exactly one hand, where he cbet a 228 board and took it down (what a read!!)

Rick in the BB  

A few limpers

BTN – Raises to £12
SB Folds
BB – Calls
One other caller

Flop  

BB – Checks
Checks round
BTN - £40

BB - £120
Folds round
BTN – all in for £500 on top on raise

We….?

[edgascoigne]

Ahhh....so that's German Rick.

Seems like a nice chap.

[outragous76]

Not raising flop to fold now

[ruud]

No way Ian has no hand here.

Expect to be shown  a lot of the time,  some of the time.

Generally hating raise/fold as a line, and is closish on the numbers, so call.

Not hating a fold in this particular spot tho

[AndrewT]

Ed - your comment was gold.

[SuuPRlim]

obviously call what else other option is there?

[titaniumbean]

I don't even.

why would you raise the flop and then not know what to do, WE HAZ GUTTY STRAIGHTY FLUSHY DRAW GOGOGOO blues

[SuuPRlim]

I think I like calling equally as much as i like raising the flop here (prolly moreso tbh) although certainly raising the flop is a dcent play and I'd do it myself quite often.

However Ithink K9*dd he's bet into 5 players I dont know how much fold equity you actually have (I think way less than you'd think) so I think you're getting it in here quite a lot of the time, obviously nothing really wrong with that, but i think calling, letting some other players call with weak hands and weaker draws and just playing your hand for it's value might be a nicer way to play.

Obviously it sucks being OOP.

[Honeybadger]

You need ~39% equity to make a break even call. The range below is fairly pessimistic as far as your chances are concerned, since in this range he is NEVER EVER bluffing or jamming a worse flush draw than yours, and is never ever slowplaying any hands at all by flatting your check-raise. And yet you still have over 40% equity against this range, so it is a call vs his jam:

47,520  games     0.001 secs    47,520,000  games/sec

Board: Kd 9d 4s
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    41.930%     41.85%    00.08%             19885           40.00   { QdJd }
Hand 1:    58.070%     57.99%    00.08%             27555           40.00   { KK+, 99, 44, AKs, AdTd, Ad8d, Ad4d, KQs, K9s, AKo, KQo, K9o }



Obviously he will occasionally be jamming worse draws than yours, and will maybe even very occasionally be outright bluffing (unlikely I know, but there will be a greater than zero chance even if it is less than 1%). And this increases your equity a little compared to the pessimistic range I gave above.

What about leading the flop, giving you the option of 3bet jamming over a raise? Not saying this is necessarily better than cr/calling, just saying it is something to be considered.

[iangascoigne]

Oh dear,this is going to be interesting........................

[iangascoigne]

P.S. Only error in the reporting was saying I had only played one hand in 3 hours ! That is not someone I recognise.

[ruud]

Surely you have a set here Ian?!

[iangascoigne]

Once a few more people have posted I will describe the hand from my perspective. It will be interesting.

[BangBang]

P.S. Only error in the reporting was saying I had only played one hand in 3 hours ! That is not someone I recognise.

That was copied and pasted from Fb this morning... Lol.. I was slightly mystified too, but hey I can only go off what I was told..

Would be great to get into the your mind for this hand, I'm sure Rick will be anticipating your thought process...   

[edgascoigne]

Would be great to get into your mind for this hand...   

Be careful what you wish for. It's dark in there.