So who wants to fold this?

[Newmanseye]

Move in. You'll get a call, and you want it, it's a quarter of his stack and he's getting 2-1.

The extra 1,000 chips give you a much greater chance of bringing back first prize.

The move all in is a win/win situation, you benefit if he folds, and if he calls you are %80 to win.

I really cant see where the debate on this one has come from, However Dubai I respect your opinion mate and good luck to you, Its your style of play and I hope it works for you.

[Dubai]

The other thing I would add is in this day and age. The bubble is a vastly overrated talking point. People aint passing big hands to get their $55 unless they are playing hugely out of their comfort zone. But im guessing the $55 Stts on Stars prob have a high % of regularish players that really wouldnt adjust their play on the bubble.

Im guessing here as I dont play these particular Stts. But in the Stts i play (6paks) I know that very few of the players change during the bubble and im sure passing big hands never occurs.

[thetank]

I'll admit that whether you want a call or not might be marginal. Regardless of this, the move here is still a definite all-in.

[Wardonkey]

All-in is the only option, there is no other sensible option.

[thetank]

 But im guessing the $55 Stts on Stars prob have a high % of regularish players that really wouldnt adjust their play on the bubble.

Thankfully for me, they totally do.

I all but win many tournaments when there's still 4 left.

[Dubai]

Betfair must be a different ball game then.

Cause when its 3 handed, its probably more aggressive than at any other point due to the size of blinds in relation to stacks. But you have to be willing to call all in with marginal hands when 3 handed in these.

Example-

KJs- you are on bb. with 1700 chips b4 posting. Blinds 150-300. Button has 2700. Small blind has the remaining 1600. Button passes.

If the small blind moves in here this is an instant call.
Its also probably a call if the blinds are 100-200.

[thetank]

Id smooth call here 90% of time. Unless UTG is a complete calling station then u might as well move in as you know he isnt passing.

Is IMHO

technically completely incorrect.

[Dubai]

If you call. There is 1000 in pot. 90% of internet players make continuation bets. This will be in the range of 500-800. If its the latter end then he will be pot committed.

I dont see why you should give your opponent any chance of escaping the hand.

If the board came something like 722 933 844 etc. I would be willing to check this hand twice maybe 3 times to allow my opponent to catch up hif he has checked behind me.

Why allow him to escape a situation where he is completely dominated?

[thetank]

Betfair must be a different ball game then.

Cause when its 3 handed, its probably more aggressive than at any other point due to the size of blinds in relation to stacks. But you have to be willing to call all in with marginal hands when 3 handed in these.

Example-

KJs- you are on bb. with 1700 chips b4 posting. Blinds 150-300. Button has 2700. Small blind has the remaining 1600. Button passes.

If the small blind moves in here this is an instant call.
Its also probably a call if the blinds are 100-200.

For me this depends on what type of opponents I'm against.

A lot of $55+$5 players fold too much and aren't as aggressive as they should be 3-handed. Against these I'd fold.
Others are really good and play with the proper level of agression. Against them I agree with you and would call with KJs in that spot.

[Dubai]

Maybe the players are just much more aggressive in the games on betfair.

Cause if u call here on betfair. It simply looks like you are calling with a marginal hand due to the minimum raise and when you check the big stack normally just moves in on you with basically any hand he has raised pre with. BUT they are capable of passing these hands preflop to a re-raise all in.

[thetank]

If you call. There is 1000 in pot. 90% of internet players make continuation bets. This will be in the range of 500-800. If its the latter end then he will be pot committed.

I dont see why you should give your opponent any chance of escaping the hand.

If the board came something like 722 933 844 etc. I would be willing to check this hand twice maybe 3 times to allow my opponent to catch up hif he has checked behind me.

Why allow him to escape a situation where he is completely dominated?

So when I try to steal your blind on the bubble and you hold AA you'll flat call me to let me see the flop and might even give me a free turn and river card too.

Thankyou very much. I'm beginning to like you.

[Dubai]

No problem. Im willing to play it through to the river if need be

[thetank]

Well, it's been interesting. Perhaps we should agree to disagree and call it a night.

[Dubai]

Yes.

But anyway Sherrif. The answer seems to be a unanimous no.

[TightEnd]

that's sorted then

phew

goodnight