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« Reply #300 on: July 26, 2013, 01:14:22 AM »

Matt;

Firstly the bowl comment thingy was just dumb, read things you write before you post would be my advice. Be-littling a guy for never having cashed a "bowl" comp is very silly, but we live, we learn on we go - social intelligence is so crucial for virtually any walk of life, and paramount for ones that involve a lot of contact with other people, if you have tendency to bowl off a bit, then just take your time and think things through.

The hole berating people for playing badly debate is pretty yawn, "don't tap the tank" is a stupid expression, it's not about "lets not educate the donks so they stop being donks" or w/e nonsense everyone comes up with, it's about UNDERSTANDING the game you're playing, the reasons other people play and showing them the respect they deserve.

A man sits down to play cash games, he plays once a week but might not be able to play next week half way through the night he defends against your CO open form the BB with T6o, yes this is not a winning poker play but the man might only get dealt another 40 hands in the next 12 days and having a good time and playing some cards is more important than playing "PLUS EEEE VEEEE" would be nice to have KQ sooted but I've got a Ten and a Six so lets play with these. It shows a worrying mix of un-warranted EGO and lack of respect when people berate these people for these types of plays. I've done a ton of money on table games obviously not a "PLUS EEE VEEE" thing to do but i wanted to gamble would be tilted if Gala casino wrote a blog about me and what a donk I was playing blackjack.

Saying "Don't educate them so they keep losing money to you" is slightly shrewder, but still not really "Understanding/Getting it" it's basically just a slightly cleverer and more cut-throat version of the EGO issue on this subject.

It's just cards, it's a game, as soon as people learn not to take anything the deck does personally then the sooner you'll stop feeling the need to justify your superier poker ability everytime you lose a pot. Me, I've played millions of hands I play hands terribly all the time, I just don't let the worry people might question my cardsmanship interfere with me trying to win money.

And Finish UNI ffs lol, gives you something to do that isn't poker which is pretty healthy! Great thing about poker is you can play whenever you want, so if there is every anything better to do you can do that, then i it stops being better or you finish doing it you can play more poker, you don't have to dedicate your life to the game to make money/be good at it, in fact those that don't are often better...
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« Reply #301 on: July 26, 2013, 10:56:08 AM »

People are binking £20k and thinking of going pro these days?
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« Reply #302 on: July 26, 2013, 02:57:24 PM »

People are binking £20k and thinking of going pro these days?


It's not just a 20k bink, it the fact that I've been playing semi-pro for over a year now and my cash hourly seems pretty sustainable. Add a 20k bink to that, and I've got a bankroll which I feel is the minimum to start attempting to live off. I don't think I've got enough of a roll to go properly pro yet, but I don't think I'm that far off.
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« Reply #303 on: July 26, 2013, 03:25:54 PM »

Yesterday, enjoyably, we won money. Yay! Cheesy

Played a game which began as a 50/1 in dtd, in which I did my nuts (standard). Then we made it 1/1, because I'd donated a fair bit to everyone and they decided they wanted to straddle. Then, a couple of fun things happened, like peeling the good old  on the straddle where we can obvs never have a hand and getting shoved on by something random because I had to be at it.

Then this happened. We pick up my original favourite hand,  , in the cut off and call a £7 utg open, and see a flop four ways. This flop comes  . Utg makes a continuation bet of £15, and given our image/hoodie (mainly the hoodie) we make it £45, expecting to get called at least two streets with any A4 or any pair above a 4, barring a supposed scare card like an A hitting. Anyway, this is all pretty standard stuff, but then the guy asks with a noticeably quaking voice how much we are playing. We have about 200 behind, playing about 250 to start the hand, and show him this. He then makes it £90, giving off several little live read things which really make me stop for a while and think. He continues to give off a whole bunch of reads which all mean different things, and I couldn't really work out whether this was I HAVE NUTS or LOL YOU TRY TO BLUFF ME. So, we hit the tank. A couple of minutes in, im actually starting to lean towards folding, but then we see something which makes us think again. Back into the tank we go. After (apparently) around 6 minutes, we get a clock called on us, see one more interesting live thingy, and move all in. He doesn't snap, which is always nice. He asks for a count, takes a minute or two, and sigh calls. We win. We also get accused of "slow rolling", but I was in genuine pain in this hand trying to work out what was going on, I could really beat very little of what I would call a value hand in this situation, and he was pretty close to committed by his near-minraise. Very, very odd hand.

As the game wore on, and people decided to go home/ran out of money for the day, causing games to break around the club etc, the game picked up some more familiar faces, and became one of the most fun games I've played for a long time. Everyone was enjoying themselves, everyone was chatting and mocking each other at appropriate moments, the atmosphere was one of the best I've seen. We even had some fun with Ras, when we made a £35 bluff on the end, got called reasonably quickly, and thought it would be fun to flip over 8 high as if it was the stone cold nuts. Ras looks suitably downcast, goes to muck his cards, before doing a double take at my cards and returning to study the board very carefully. I was obviously not going to allow him to muck, and grinned sheepishly at him when he asked me what I actually had, evidently thinking I must have something good, but unsure as to how two cards that were in no way connected to the board could somehow beat his top pair. We proudly announce 8 high, and smile at the relief on his face as he smiles back and rolls over his top pair. Nh buddy Wink

Looking forward to the sky poker 6 max this weekend. It will be my last event in dtd for a little over a month, since I will be heading home to play the GPS in my home casino in Southend, and heading out on what may be my last family holiday. Should be fun Smiley Will be announcing how much I'm selling for said GPS in the very near future, there will NOT be a markup.
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« Reply #304 on: July 26, 2013, 03:32:20 PM »

Il buy some if there is a mark down? Cheesy
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« Reply #305 on: July 26, 2013, 03:49:34 PM »

what is your current hourly that you spoke about, apologies I didnt realise you were crushing the games over a decent sample.

hope you dont think im being harsh but that 9t hand sounds pretty ridiculous!
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #306 on: July 26, 2013, 03:58:10 PM »

After (apparently) around 6 minutes, we get a clock called on us

I can't remember where I was playing, but I got into a bit of a situation like this where I couldn't work out dafuq was going on.  I tried to call the clock on myself and the dealer said I wasn't allowed.  I then asked the table to call the clock on me and that was fine.  Spent most of the clock thinking how rediculous it was, then called (wrongly).
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« Reply #307 on: July 26, 2013, 04:05:10 PM »

After (apparently) around 6 minutes, we get a clock called on us

I can't remember where I was playing, but I got into a bit of a situation like this where I couldn't work out dafuq was going on.  I tried to call the clock on myself and the dealer said I wasn't allowed.  I then asked the table to call the clock on me and that was fine.  Spent most of the clock thinking how rediculous it was, then called (wrongly).

Cheesy
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« Reply #308 on: July 26, 2013, 04:11:02 PM »

hope you dont think im being harsh but that 9t hand sounds pretty ridiculous!

Not harsh
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« Reply #309 on: July 26, 2013, 04:15:45 PM »

confirmed if anybody calls clock on me unnecessarily then I will use the whole 60 seconds.
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« Reply #310 on: July 26, 2013, 04:21:45 PM »

confirmed if anybody calls clock on me unnecessarily then I will use the whole 60 seconds.

What formula do you use for calculating necessity?
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« Reply #311 on: July 26, 2013, 04:28:09 PM »

its usually pretty obvious.
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« Reply #312 on: July 26, 2013, 10:22:11 PM »

Il buy some if there is a mark down? Cheesy

You sound more like verndog everyday.  I hope you don't take too much offence from this comment.
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« Reply #313 on: July 27, 2013, 11:56:31 PM »

Il buy some if there is a mark down? Cheesy

You sound more like verndog everyday.  I hope you don't take too much offence from this comment.


haha, you mean hes starting to be funny? imagine how irresistible he would be if he started to look as good as me too Wink plus hes jealous of how much better my helipcopter fold is Cheesy
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« Reply #314 on: July 30, 2013, 03:51:32 PM »

SPT 6-Max,

What a fantastic tournament. The place was absolutely buzzing for the two days of the event, and everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves. Almost certainly the most fun tournament that I have ever played. I ran pretty deep, eventually finishing 13th after losing AK vs 88 AIPF for a lot of big blinds, hurt a lot to not make a final table of an event where I feel like I played some very good poker.

Had the pleasure of sitting on a table next to the one that Rasta was on, and thoroughly enjoyed watching him behave like a diva all weekend. Looking like a man on the verge of playing some serious tennis all weekend, he had cameras and microphones thrust at him all weekend, and seemed to lap up the experience. In the process, we both discovered a new form of tell. Camera tell. This became evident in one particular hand, where a gentleman's reasoning for calling preflop was that the camera crew had all seen Rasta's hand, and hadn't turned on the camera. His call on the flop was made for the same reason, and his check give up on the turn was made because as soon as the Q popped up, the camera's snap turned on. Pretty interesting stuff, as I saw Rasta's hand, and the guy was completely spot on.

My final table was a particularly exciting affair, where I think everyone barring myself was a name. I was sat, and I quote, "out of position to a pussycat (Ryan Spittles) and an online bot (Titaniumbean)". Although this meant I did actually have to be a nit (I had, as usual, spent most of the weekend proclaiming that I never played anything that wasn't AA or KK, but would occasionally show up with KQ if I felt like getting funky), it was a fantastic table on which a very high standard of poker was played. Had my money on James Rann to take the title from towards the end of day 1, and I think it was a crying shame that he didn't.

In the end, I won what amounts to a few hours with my own bouncy castle (a proper one, with a slide), but missed out on a paperweight for making an FT. Also met Tikay for the first time, who is a "top bloke" and an all round great emissary for poker. I may have been convinced to check out sky poker again, after nearly a year's sabbatical. Fantastic event, well run. Will certainly look out for more in the future.

In response to Pleno1, my hourly is around the £15 phr mark, playing mainly 1/1 and 1/2, although this is over a very small sample size (around 500 hrs of live poker, with gaps). I doubt I will consider leaving university until I have about 4 times this sample, with a similar win rate.

Also, the 9/10 hand was a bit crazy. I don't think I actually tanked for anywhere near that long, but it's hard to know when you're in that situation, time seems to move shockingly fast. Thinking about it now it seems pretty insane, but at the time I felt like I had a genuine decision.
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