Easy shove or wait for better spot?

[bobAlike]

GPS Star City ME
100/200
My stack 21K - Rec fish
Villain #1 60K - solid pro who I've a lot a respect for. Playing tight game with the odd act of aggression
Villain #2 24K - old gent probs same age as TK who like to see flops with Raggy Aces
Villain #3 30k - New to table but has limped pretty much every hand

Folds to me in mid position I make it 600 with AKs
Villain 3 calls
Villain 1 makes it 4K
Villain 2 calls 4k
Me??

[outragous76]

100bbs pre ante?!?!?!

Sigh fold and tell noone

[George2Loose]

Seems like a huge raise from a solid pro

[bobAlike]

Seems like a huge raise from a solid pro

I know it really threw me. He is also very tall.

[tron1ft8]

after your description of the players involved i make it 10,200 and dont plan on folding obviously (might be why iam a huge live fish). if he is as you say solid then can he really be making it 20x bb and you have 3x'd it with aa? this could be his random act of aggression and it is a pretty good spot for him to be getting out of line here. interesting spot though. i can why folding could be argued for! but in game i doubt i do here especially with the extra 4k from the old guy who is almost never flatting aa kk there.

[JustinSayne]

Fold pretty quickly and dont lose any sleep over it

[PutYouOnAK/AQ]

very easy fold. if u peel it v much justifies the huge 3bet

[MANTIS01]

I would jam buddy. You brought the action in from mp not ep, villain 2 raises well big, the other two villains are fish, we have the smallest stack at the table, and when it gets back to us there is 10k in the pot. Think we would be v unlucky to run into AA/KK here so all things considered yeah pretty straightforward squeeze for me. Not far to drive home either.

[EvilPie]

Really easy fold and hope they get to showdown so you can make a note of what they had.

[MC]

Seems like a huge raise from a solid pro

I know it really threw me. He is also very tall.

Is villain either "Tall anon" whos surname rhymes with Clinton, or Karl Ma-----holz?

I realise there are other tall people who play poker just thought you were hinting at one of these two?

[corkeye]

Struggling to think of any pro ever that would make it 4k who's solid and plays for a living.

[outragous76]

Re the raise size, although normally I'd agree, having played this I did adjust with some oversized bets on Thursday.

If you know you are getting called and all that ...........

[MANTIS01]

Think the two relevant players in the hand are hero and tall villain. When tall villain puts in the oversize bet he wont think hero calls from 21k very often. He might think villain who limps every hand with 30k can call sometimes but tall villain then has the adv of position, chips, momentum, & image post. And normal c-bet would give limping villain a big decision for his stack. Tall villain can have a hand but don't think his range is KK/AA to play this pot.

[bobAlike]

Seems like a huge raise from a solid pro

I know it really threw me. He is also very tall.

Is villain either "Tall anon" whos surname rhymes with Clinton, or Karl Ma-----holz?

I realise there are other tall people who play poker just thought you were hinting at one of these two?

It was Karl.

A further bit of information, on probably 4 or 5 times he was 3 bet off hands when making standard 2 or 3 x BB opens on which he had commented, more than once, how players had it in for him.

This too was on my mind. Obv Karl is way above my level at poker and could be just levelling me either way.

More info, I'm armed with an another bullet if needed.

[bobAlike]

For all those who say fold, is this purely a numbers decision or just because there's no point in taking flips at this stage of the game.

The range I put him on was 78s+. I know this was wide but as table chip leader surely anyone worth their salt should boss the shorter stacks.