4bet iso spot?

[JGill_DTD]

Yeh seems massively optimistic for ray to get the speech out with a big hand to induce Jon to reshove behind!

Speech genuine 99% imo.

The bb crushes us though a lot despite what he says

Yeah feel like this is the case
Should be focused more on the bb's hand rather than having the mentality of "well if I jam and Ray folds, I win"

[dakky]

too much talking in multi-way pots here.

[mondatoo]

too much talking in multi-way pots here.

Yeah we've established that, just as I insta realised after I did it that I'd made a mistake. Didn't really want to pile 50bbs in though because of it and as Jon was peeling pretty wide it seemed fine to still call as even though I knew he knew I was very likely to be genuinely in a marginal spot I thought he'd just chalk this up as one to let go a lot of the time.

[cambridgealex]

can just hear monda now, slurring his words

"i know ya full a shit man oh shit diiint eeen realise youse still in tha pot like sorry man. alreet screw it i cawl"