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AndrewT
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Strange one that people think we shouldn't speak ill of the dead. By contrast, people do seem to spend a large amount of their lives criticising the living.
It all seems such a long time ago now, and is best forgotten.
I don't think she'd have approved of people holding back their views, except in cabinet meetings of course.
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There are people actually celebrating on Twitter and Facebook because someone has died.
Need a good hard look at themselves imo.
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RIP Iron Lady
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Quote from: TightEnd on April 08, 2013, 01:07:28 PM
Leaves Twitter for a fortnight.
solid strat tbh -- i mean, her politics destroyed a whole region (or more) but there's really no need to grave dance, especially if you don't feel it personally. There's a circle of hell reserved for bandwaggoners as well, I'm sure.
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The thing with Thatcher is that she had such a polarising effect on people's lives.
Many did very very well out of her policies - those who bought their own council homes for pennies and are now sitting on a gold mine, those who had money to invest in shares, those working in the top end of business and financial services.
Many suffered - those living in shoddy rented accommodation with a fortune in housing benefit shelled out to landlords because, oddly, there are very few council houses any more, many communities up north are still suffering from the changes in the industrial landscape and the labelling of them as workshy scroungers (anyone who has read a newspaper over the past few weeks will realise Thatcherism isn't dead)
If you're in the first group then it will appear to be very heartless to see some of the comments that have been made.
If you're in the second group then it's entirely understandable to make comments about the woman who probably had more of a negative impact upon your life than any other.
The two groups don't mix much, it's all very tribal, and the sense of a collective, national sense of community isn't there any more (who to blame for this...?)
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this reminds me of when rev, falwell died and hitchens crucified (;-) ) him on US tv
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CNN aren't to know that this photo may not be the greatest tribute to her.
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Pretty much what Andrew said.
I have no real desire to "dance on her grave" and I realise that for certain people, particularly in the south of England she is seen as the person that turned Britain around and, for them, that might be true. For others, like me, she pursued policies that decimated entire regions, led to families being ripped apart and had a devastating effect that words really can't describe. For sure she changed Britain and, if truth be told, it is probably a better place now but the toll that she took during those years disenfranchised an entire generation and I am not sure that human cost can ever have been worth it and for that reason I won't shed any tears and will find it hard to condemn those that do celebrate her death.
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Quote from: bobby1 on April 08, 2013, 01:40:26 PM
There are people actually celebrating on Twitter and Facebook because someone has died.
Need a good hard look at themselves imo.
Problem is that her worshippers should realise that she was a devisive figure and respect those that disagreed with her policies. Gerald Howarth was just on the BBC claiming that her legacy was ruined by Labour, obviously thats just trolling.
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Quote from: AndrewT on April 08, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
CNN aren't to know that this photo may not be the greatest tribute to her.
One for the minors/miners?
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Quote from: doubleup on April 08, 2013, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 08, 2013, 01:40:26 PM
There are people actually celebrating on Twitter and Facebook because someone has died.
Need a good hard look at themselves imo.
Problem is that her worshippers should realise that she was a devisive figure and respect those that disagreed with her policies. Gerald Howarth was just on the BBC claiming that her legacy was ruined by Labour, obviously thats just trolling.
I have no problem with anyone having their views on her as a person but there are people celebrating someone dying.
The worrying line tho is this
''her worshippers should realise that she was a devisive figure and
respect
those that disagreed with her policies''
So her followers should respect her opponents but her opponents are free to celebrate that she is dead, seems like the respect is a bit one sided there fella.
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Quote from: bobby1 on April 08, 2013, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: doubleup on April 08, 2013, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 08, 2013, 01:40:26 PM
There are people actually celebrating on Twitter and Facebook because someone has died.
Need a good hard look at themselves imo.
Problem is that her worshippers should realise that she was a devisive figure and respect those that disagreed with her policies. Gerald Howarth was just on the BBC claiming that her legacy was ruined by Labour, obviously thats just trolling.
I have no problem with anyone having their views on her as a person but there are people celebrating someone dying.
The worrying line tho is this
''her worshippers should realise that she was a devisive figure and
respect
those that disagreed with her policies''
So her followers should respect her opponents but her opponents are free to celebrate that she is dead, seems like the respect is a bit one sided there fella.
Both sides should be free to say what they want about her.
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Quote from: bobby1 on April 08, 2013, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: doubleup on April 08, 2013, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 08, 2013, 01:40:26 PM
There are people actually celebrating on Twitter and Facebook because someone has died.
Need a good hard look at themselves imo.
Problem is that her worshippers should realise that she was a devisive figure and respect those that disagreed with her policies. Gerald Howarth was just on the BBC claiming that her legacy was ruined by Labour, obviously thats just trolling.
I have no problem with anyone having their views on her as a person but there are people celebrating someone dying.
The worrying line tho is this
''her worshippers should realise that she was a devisive figure and
respect
those that disagreed with her policies''
So her followers should respect her opponents but her opponents are free to celebrate that she is dead, seems like the respect is a bit one sided there fella.
My point is that there plenty like myself who disagreed vehemently with many of her policies and would prefer that everyone acts respectfully and treats this as the passing of a significant figure in British history and not an opportunity to attack her opponents as Howarth did.
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