Thatcher dead?

[bobAlike]

Most women look like that from Gornal lol

[Tal]

Most women look like that from Gornal lol

 

[MintTrav]

I haven't seen - to the best of my recollection - a single instance of someone being persuaded to change their view in 27 pages.

Until you came along, with your peace and love and dogs and chess and what not and persuaded them all to stop posting. I was watching that.

[bobAlike]

I haven't seen - to the best of my recollection - a single instance of someone being persuaded to change their view in 27 pages.

Until you came along, with your peace and love and dogs and chess and what not and persuaded them all to stop posting. I was watching that.

Hail the Messiah!

FYP

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

[MANTIS01]

Just for the benefit of the odd blonde member I run into during real life. I hope it’s clear I did not post at any point to “take the piss” out of people’s hardships as has been stated. That is not my character. In fact that is quite the opposite of my character, and if you do read some of my posts you will see how compassionate my views actually are.

However, during the course of this thread a mod has decided he knows me and knows what I’m all about. He has tagged me publically as somebody who takes the piss out of misfortune. This has been completely unchallenged by anybody else on the modding team, yes even you RED-DOG. What’s more, other mods arrived asking ME to have some understanding about being flamed, which demonstrates they are ok accepting this negative attitude towards me. I have received no apology or explanation even though I have given an extensive explanation of my comment.   

The last time I posted about a death it was when I called for an enquiry into Gary Speed’s untimely demise. Not fist-pumping and laughing about his death, just calling for an enquiry because I was shocked by it. Ironically the exact same mod got very offended that time as well and singled me out again for unjustified and extensive personal flaming.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=55929.0

Once again other mods like Tikay turn up to say

But, you know, a normal human being with a modicum of respect for others might just wait until the body is cold, & the poor chap has been laid to rest, right? THAT was why the Threads were split, & offence was caused. I refuse to believe you cannot see that.

Yet during the course of this thread I have seen the genuinely negative souls of Blonde free to post how they are glad somebody is dead and how they only wish it had happened sooner. And the same mod express his hatred. No public reprimand from mods, no accusations, no quoting and requests to show a little understanding, no slights on their character.

People are free to judge.

Regards

Mario Balotelli

[AndrewT]

If I ever start a band I'm going to call them 'The Genuinely Negative Souls of Blonde'

[Tal]

Can we move this to the 'I don't like the Mods' thread, please?

This is polluting BobAlike's and my Black Country Pig and Wall Stories Thread.

Thanks in advance.

Gary Mabbutt.

[the sicilian]

Hate the British mentality that if you work hard make something of yourself make a good few quid and provide yourself with a more than comfortable life your regarded as some kind of anti christ.... Now if your poor live in a shit hole and whine your whole life how hard done by you are your some kind of rebel hero ffs...

The problem with this though is that working hard and doing well for yourself aren't neccesarily as highly correlated as people think.  There are a whole host of other elements that come into play.  If you lived in Durham or South Yorkshire and were a miner in 1987 when your pit closed it doesn't matter how hard a worker you were you were simply not going to do as well as someone with the same work ethic that was born and lived in St Albans or somewhere.  Even if you had the brains, drive and skillset to start your own business all of your customers could, likely, not afford to buy in your shop, or get your new windows fitted or whatever.  Of course you could move but that isn't an economic and/or emotional reality for some families.  Of course life is like poker in that most people massively underestimate the role of luck when everything goes well and overestimate it when everything goes wrong.  If you lived in the Midlands or the South, worked in financial services, lived in a council house you could afford to buy etc etc during the Thatcher years you ran good.  If you were a skilled blue collar worker, lived in the North, Scotland or Wales and were a waiting list for a council house you ran bad.  

We all have choices in life most not easy.. perhaps moving to a different area more prosperous is an idea?

Yea this.. they should just hitch hike down south, taking only their favourite child and take up residence in the local bus shelter.. Simple.

One of the greatest attributes man has is his ability to adapt and survive.. thats why we are still here..obv with that attitude you would never get anywhere

[the sicilian]

I'm not that knowledge on the subject so am open to my comments being very wrong, but my initial thought is that she didn't just give people drive, and teach them to "crack on", but to do so in a way that encourages greed, selfishness and a disregard for those less fortunate - aspects that can ultimately divide a society over the long term. While she did indeed make us a stronger nation financially, I think this is a somewhat misleading claim as she deregulated the financial industry and increased the gap between the rich and the poor, which could be argued is the very reason that we're currently suffering from a recession and having to rebuild the economy.

Can we all stop pretending that this trait doesnt apply to most of the population of earth...most people whether they admit  it or not look out for themselves and their own first off... usually the ones spouting off are the worst culprits like that tosser Bob Crowe..if youre looking for villains start in your own back yard..£140 K  a year and he still takes up a council house ..right on comrade good to know your'e giving that up for one of your members on the bread line...

[AndrewT]

I'm not that knowledge on the subject so am open to my comments being very wrong, but my initial thought is that she didn't just give people drive, and teach them to "crack on", but to do so in a way that encourages greed, selfishness and a disregard for those less fortunate - aspects that can ultimately divide a society over the long term. While she did indeed make us a stronger nation financially, I think this is a somewhat misleading claim as she deregulated the financial industry and increased the gap between the rich and the poor, which could be argued is the very reason that we're currently suffering from a recession and having to rebuild the economy.

Can we all stop pretending that this trait doesnt apply to most of the population of earth...most people whether they admit  it or not look out for themselves and their own first off... usually the ones spouting off are the worst culprits like that tosser Bob Crowe..if youre looking for villains start in your own back yard..£140 K  a year and he still takes up a council house ..right on comrade good to know your'e giving that up for one of your members on the bread line...

Humans are selfish, greedy creatures.

Could we not try to be more than that though?

[the sicilian]

I'm not that knowledge on the subject so am open to my comments being very wrong, but my initial thought is that she didn't just give people drive, and teach them to "crack on", but to do so in a way that encourages greed, selfishness and a disregard for those less fortunate - aspects that can ultimately divide a society over the long term. While she did indeed make us a stronger nation financially, I think this is a somewhat misleading claim as she deregulated the financial industry and increased the gap between the rich and the poor, which could be argued is the very reason that we're currently suffering from a recession and having to rebuild the economy.

Can we all stop pretending that this trait doesnt apply to most of the population of earth...most people whether they admit  it or not look out for themselves and their own first off... usually the ones spouting off are the worst culprits like that tosser Bob Crowe..if youre looking for villains start in your own back yard..£140 K  a year and he still takes up a council house ..right on comrade good to know your'e giving that up for one of your members on the bread line...

Humans are selfish, greedy creatures.

Could we not try to be more than that though?

Andrew... its a beautiful thought....another 10,000 years of evolution maybe... however the same traits enable man to move forward..if their wernt greedy driven selfish people around i dont think man would have advanced as far as he has... id love peace and harmony in the world..everyone to be equal and not want for anything...however im a realist whether shaped by the events of my life or by nature, i stopped hiding under the quilt pretending everything was aright and fair years ago...  most people need to realise that their life isnt really that bad...they lose their livelihood..they still have choices..they still live in a country that will provide for them..that they are healthy and have choices..try thinking of those people in the world starving..seeing their children die..their loved ones blown to bits...imprisoned for no good reason...their daughters raped and murdered... then tell me how tough your life is... the word is perspective..be bloody grateful you able to sit in your warm home with food in your belly and a computer to type into saying how its all someone elses fault...sheeesh !

[MintTrav]

One of Margaret Thatcher's legacies, that I haven't seen mentioned here, was the situation in Northern Ireland. Her failure or unwillingness to understand the situation caused the killings to go on for longer than could have been the case if a less hostile approach had been adopted. On occasion, she made provocative statements that seemed to deliberately reignite a situation that was calming down.

Her failures in this regard contrast with the later achievements of Major and Blair (and others). Lives could have been saved if a desire to do so was demonstrated earlier.

[bobAlike]

and rightly so....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22124015

[TightEnd]

One of Margaret Thatcher's legacies, that I haven't seen mentioned here, was the situation in Northern Ireland. Her failure or unwillingness to understand the situation caused the killings to go on for longer than could have been the case if a less hostile approach had been adopted. On occasion, she made provocative statements that seemed to deliberately reignite a situation that was calming down.

Her failures in this regard contrast with the later achievements of Major and Blair (and others). Lives could have been saved if a desire to do so was demonstrated earlier.

this is probably correct, but we are all shaped by our experiences (as we can see on this thread)

She lost Airey Neave and Ian Gow to bombings, then the Brighton bomb....

Hard-line dogmatism is hardly likely to reduce after those murders.

[Doobs]

and rightly so....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22124015

Maybe you should have a party?