DTD Deepstack Day 2 Spot versus Nit Tendencies

[jjandellis]

First of all a bit of background to help with my image:

I start day 2 with 155k. This was a bit above average from the live day 1's, but the onlines have skewed things slightly and I think the average was about 170k. The very first hand plays itself and I find myself up to 270k.  Apart from that I was pretty inactive.  I folded to one SB v BB 2.5 raise and also to one or two btn/co raises.

I also laid down  to a short stack 'stop go' 50k shove into a threeway pot of about 42k on my BB. The board was  .  I commented I was being nitty, but also have a very good handle on the shorties ranges as he plays in my local game.  The pot cost me very little and I feel the lay down will help my image later on (before Herbie shouts collusion!)

So all in all I think I have shown nit tendencies ;-)

The hand

I'd like to try and develop the PHA one street at a time....

Blinds 3k/6k a1k (8 handed)

63 places paid - about 70 left (Average stack is about 205k)

Folds around to SB (Jamie Sykes). He has been fairly active and playing out of about 500k....he raises to 16k

jjandellis  (240k stack) 

Pre-flop Questions:

1. What do you think Jamie's range is here?

2. Does this range look fair:

22+,A2s+,K4s+,Q6s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A2o+,K4o+,Q6o+,J8o+,T8o+,98o

3. Do you:

a. Fold
b. Flat
c. 3 bet (if so, what do you do in face of 4bet etc)
d. Huge overshove

**If Jamie could give his angle on things I'd really appreciate it!

[TL900]

100% flat

[titaniumbean]

I'd ask him to move his fore arms so I could see his stack then i'd announce 'PEEL'

[TL900]

Also, as far as range goes I would suspect he will be much wider.

[LonOhRay]

There is no decision to do anything other than flat

Folding in position, terrible hand far too strong bvb
3b folding, terrible - turned a strong BvB hand into a bluff - more value from flatting
3b peeling doesn't work - 16k - 38k - 80k - pot sized bet behind
3b to 5b is just a punt with 40 bigs in this really soft tournament and so close to the money although he is going to give you a very strong range with the 5b and probably only call off AQs TT+


As to his range very close to 100% given your history on the table

[dwayne110]

Mostly flatting in position, but if he's aggro, chipped up, and youre expecting a 4 bet then a 5 bet shove looks good to me too, id keep raise size smaller (to around 28-30k), likely to leave a good shoving stack with fold equity if we get 4 bet. Looks so strong close to the.bubble which should tighten his calling range

[JustinSayne]

As to his range very close to 100% given your history on the table

Makes it a snap shove/3b then imo

[rfgqqabc]

Shove +Cev at a guess, be very surprised if not.

3b/call might be ok, but very dependant on Jamie's knowledge of you.

Flat always an option but I'd be pretty aware I'll be getting the clip on the bubble.

[tight4better]

100% flat

[pleno1]

im pretty sure (like 99%) that you should 3b/fold vs him in this spot. But in a vacuum vs normal opponents you should call.

[TL900]

How can 3b/f ever be better than flatting?

[youthnkzR]

Yeah not a fan of 3b/f at all.

If 3bing its only to 5b jam and this totally depends on how often im expecting him to 4b.

Just call.

[pleno1]

I can guarantee in this spot, 3b/f is the best line and 3b/calling would be bad. It totally depends on how good you think you are post flop, but Jamie is good and can hand read well and put you into trouble post flop. Pre flop he will play v tight vs our 3bet.

Again, not recommending this in a vacuum.

[TL900]

We got that position thing brah. Very comfortable flatting this vs anyone in the world 40bb deep

[pleno1]

if ti was me in the hand, then i would call, but its op and hes asking whats the best line for him in this hand.

i dont think its close btw.