live 2/2 omaha spot

[SuuPRlim]

If we decide we don't like a gd old slice of variance then folding is fine, it's a spot that is going to be high variance but that's true of any spot where you have to get 200big blinds in (because if you lose, you lose 200 big blinds...)

However with the information you gave in the OP you have a clearly very profitable pot.

- You have a LOT of fold equity.

- You have a hand that CAN be dominating/unlucky to be crushed.

If you do decide to fold then that's fine, but I'm hugely convinced that you'd be giving up a chunk of money doing so. Better spots don't really exist than ones where you can just say "pot" and make money, no playing down the streets, no chance of future mistakes etc. Like I said though, there is always big Variance in these hands.

[gouty]

Well I would say we have checked oop on flop with the intention of shoving any action but we get the exact action that makes our hand vulnerable.

[jk1892]

Glad to have recieved lots of insight on this hand from the Blonde community. It has all been a great read. Thanks

[gouty]

Yeah it's a good hand.

I had a great pissed up one hour debate with my best poker buddy in the pub the other night about it. He agrees with Lil D but then again he would as he can be a little degen sometimes and just loves playing massive pots at live deep PLO.

However he struggled to come up with many hands that the re raiser on the flop would bet that we crush. But he said he still has to get it in! I said " you got £15 invested"  and he STILL takes the Lil D line of get it in.

So I have to succumb to my 2 favourite poker mentors.

[tikay]

Well I would say we have checked oop on flop with the intention of shoving any action but we get the exact action that makes our hand vulnerable.

Does that really hold true, though?

The fact we check may be exactly why our man pots it, because he senses weakness, he has position, and we checked.

Cause and effect.

He can also, of course, have the hand you suggest.

[Skippy]

If you are playing 5h6s7c8s and you aren't excited about a 2s3s4c flop, why are you playing the hand at all? That's how I see it.

Having said that, I am expert at getting it all in bad in this game :-)

[jk1892]

Well I would say we have checked oop on flop with the intention of shoving any action but we get the exact action that makes our hand vulnerable.

Does that really hold true, though?

The fact we check may be exactly why our man pots it, because he senses weakness, he has position, and we checked.

Cause and effect.

He can also, of course, have the hand you suggest.

Think he's always wanting to get the money in thats why I thought it was interesting spot, punting in £1000 when we could be completely crushed. The straddle always has a good hand also, he never leads out with just 56 as hes a very good player and to do that is awful. So there are so many factors to consider in this hand and thats why a fold or shove are both reasonable given the action.

[GreekStein]

this is exactly why live PLO is so awful and games should never be more than 6-max.

[gouty]

Well I would say we have checked oop on flop with the intention of shoving any action but we get the exact action that makes our hand vulnerable.

Does that really hold true, though?

The fact we check may be exactly why our man pots it, because he senses weakness, he has position, and we checked.

Cause and effect.

He can also, of course, have the hand you suggest.

Agreed. Not really enough money in pot to bluff here though? And he would bet less. It just seems like he is happy to bloat pot in position which is a bit scary. If it was my local game I would fold against maybe 3 players and shove v the rest and randoms.

It's all about the buttons style of play not ours.

[bobAlike]

Sorry to hijack thread but would be interested to know how the more knowledgable players would proceed with this hand.

PLO 2/2 at Broadway
I was on the waiting list foir the 2/2 so joined the 1/2 game. Very dull game but managed to book a £400 profit. Was feeling a bit tired and was ready to go home but then a seat came available on the 2/2. I joined with the intention of just playing for an hour and sat short stacked with £200. After 60 min of play i was now holding £700 and declared I was leaving after half an hour.

My hand As 10s
6 handed
Villain 1 -1300 Aggressive
Villain 2- 250 Aggressive

I straddle £4
2 limpers both TAG
Villain 1 - Button makes it £24
Villain 2 - SB calls
BB pass
Me raise to £100 (should have potted it here)
Limpers fold
Villain1 calls
Villain2 shoves
Me??

Are you happy getting as many of your soldiers in here?

[mulhuzz]

Don't think I'm ever passing this hand with action.

Lets bet all the discs.

[ih8winning]

I pot Get it in and love life.... Theres ZERO agrument to fold....

[jk1892]

Deffo jamming now given the action. Personally i hate to 3-bet pre in 6 card especially out of position, your hand flops well so post flop play is always more profitable here imo.

[gouty]

You can get your stack in now anyway so 100 seems fine earlier. Not even I ( PLO ultra nit) can find a reason for folding here. Not much argument for calling to play a side pot through the streets as that will look stronger than shoving.

Short stacks in 6 card are just the most tilting things ever. It's a better game about 5am with about 5 big stacks only when über drunk.

[SuuPRlim]

@bobalike - yeh DEFO go all in, literally no other play can't possibly fold, calling is pointless when we can get our stack in, you might get it in 3 way, and might not be amazing equity spot but defo printing getting it in.

6card Omaha is such a boring game, people somehow believe it's really "gambley" or "bingo" but it really isn't it's just a huge nits game.