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SuuPRlim
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Re: SCOOP 2013
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May 07, 2013, 03:58:35 AM »
this whole thing doesnt wash with me, something is off and everyone knows it.
Declare total how much you owe ITT very urgently.
Also people need to be VERY careful with the word VOUCH. there is about 3 people on the planet I'd vouch for blind.
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May 07, 2013, 04:39:33 AM »
yeah as dave says, the word 'vouch' used to mean "ill pay everyone if he grims, i would lie down on the road with a million in my pocket and him driving a car towards me" now it seems to mean, "yeah he can play a bit and has never grimmed me"
i think pleno has to take some responsibility here, if any investors are really under it i feel he should stump up until the debt is paid. His vouch acted as a catalyst for people to flock to the thread and i think patrick has to be held accountable for something, even if its just being accountable for a mis judgment of character.
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May 07, 2013, 04:56:48 AM »
Whilst I understand the point of the posters above, anyone taking #justavouch as a completely 100% mind settling factor has been a touch silly. Why this would particularly convince anyone without pming Pleno for a word beats me. It has some sway but at the same time really, just really?
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celtic
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May 07, 2013, 05:02:20 AM »
To be fair, even if Pleno hadn't posted that, the thread woulda sold out anyway.
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discomonkey
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Re: SCOOP 2013
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May 07, 2013, 07:31:10 AM »
The point is that when someone as well respected and knowledgeable as Pleno "vouches" for someone, that means a whole hell of a lot to people when deciding whether or not to invest in someone..... and when he gives someone such a glowing reference as "if i had only the money to back one person it would be him" which insinuates he would trust him with copious sums of money above all other potential realistic suitors, that in itself gives everyone else huge confidence to take pieces of this guy and regardless of whether this thread would have sold out or not certain people have bought pieces because of Plenos influence (which I'm sure when he gave the reference that was intention given his understandable personal bias towards OP). So as much as Pleno's intentions were undoubtedly good I think he certainly has to take a part of the responsibility with regard to the people that have bought pieces at least in part due to his reference.
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MANTIS01
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What kind of fuckery is this?
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May 07, 2013, 07:45:03 AM »
lol at the heat on pleno instead of op.
wp Dave for the reality check. This guy has knocked in everyone's money and blamed it on "the pain inside" but seems to escape with a few good luck for the future messages.
Can I ask if op is allowed to continue enjoying his membership as normal? I don't see any personal flaming from mods or lifetime bans being imposed. In fact I don't see anything happening when this is a major weed in the ladygarden.
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Re: SCOOP 2013
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May 07, 2013, 08:02:52 AM »
Just lol.
As said in the other tread blonde community is very different to most as everybody knows everybody.
If this was a guy off pokerstrategy who nobody had met then I would snap offer to stump up the money for all involved.
In this case almost half of the action was sold before I woke up almost everybody has probably met the guy before, he is v active in the uk poker scene and he is also a prolific online grinder (top 1% in terms f volume of blonde posters)
The reasons that you can speak so freely is because of the community on blonde of it was for everybody then I'd understand but it's for 300+ posts.
Ithis/other thread definitely made me see things completely differently here, I'll be I guess policing every one of my posts/not posting as much.
Anybody who invested after I posted in the tread can pm if they have a problem as I don't mind sorting it out if they genuinely invested because of me then I will cover the money. My pride/reputation worth a lot more to me than ( in the grand scheme of things) a little bit of money.
All of this can be done completely anonymously.
Looks like:
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So for all above if you have never bought in Tom before and you wouldn't have bought a piece of it wasnt for me then pm me and I'll pay your money off forum and I'll sort with Tom separately.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
celtic
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Re: SCOOP 2013
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May 07, 2013, 08:10:52 AM »
@ mantis.
You think tom should be banned?
How would that help people get their money back?
As fat as I know, no one has been banned for griimming on blonde.
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May 07, 2013, 08:12:23 AM »
dont ban him pls
I have no contact with tom if he gets banned
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Re: SCOOP 2013
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May 07, 2013, 08:30:25 AM »
Am I deemed not worthy of you stumping up or too liquid lol - omitted from list ha ha
Fwiw, wouldn't expect you too, Buyer beware and all that - mind you good gesture and ort of refects your values. I get Lil Dave abd Triggs point tho, you should be careful as I think you sometimes are too giving and judge by your own values, good trait tho.
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May 07, 2013, 08:42:23 AM »
Haha sorry missed you out and didn't post couple names who were off forum. You're obv welcome to the same as the other guys mentioned in the post.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: SCOOP 2013
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May 07, 2013, 09:05:07 AM »
Been playing at DTD and then had family round for BBQ all day yesterday so only saw this thread last night. In a way, I'm kind of glad i didn't know earlier by PM as i would have been thinking about it during the day. Just at work so will briefly give my view.
I know i have only a small % and ~£100 isn't going to mean my family are eating beans on toast for the month but must admit I am still surprised when this kind of stuff happens with other people's money. However, i guess what people want to see is some humility and facts about exactly where we are at. I presume by "doing the lot" you mean that you deposited all funds sent to you by bank and proceeded to lose that as well? So best thing is to keep people informed and be honest/open about what is going on.
@pleno - as a small punter looking to stake occasionally because my own volume is really low, your "recommendation" did kind of sway my decision, knowing there may be a dozen other SCOOP staking threads. I was a bit wary about the part where he mentioned his normal backer and the fact that stakes might be cancelled if they decided to get involved but I have played against TL a few times on stars so know he is capable, so decided to take a punt knowing that someone thinks he is trsutworthy etc.
Do i think you should be on the hook? No, of course not. I don't know you personally but you seem "super" enthusiastic about the game and community and that is great to see. Its just unfortunate that this has happened on a thread where you were trying to help.
Should you become less involved? No, of course not. You tried to help and had TL proceeded to play the stake nothing further would have happened, in fact you would have felt great and everyone would be backslapping had he actually shipped something. I guess its just a lesson learnt in the liberal use of words, especially where other people are involved. Your pride/reputation will be fine.
I don't think you should cover the debt, TL should do this, however long it takes.
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May 07, 2013, 09:17:23 AM »
fwiw, if this thread happened again tomorrow, after knowing everything in the aftermath here regarding what I said, I would still say the first post just not the stupid twitter hashtag, it was most likely just done in bed rofling about.
I always obviously hired Tom to work for me in terms of producing content, so that alone would show that I think he is very capable and trustworthy as I would never hire anybody I didn't have a LOT of faith in as that is my job! Keys, Rupert being the other guys off Blonde who have made videos and have v good reputations.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Quote from: pleno1 on May 07, 2013, 08:02:52 AM
Ithis/other thread definitely made me see things completely differently here, I'll be I guess policing every one of my posts/
not posting as much
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MANTIS01
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Quote from: celtic on May 07, 2013, 08:10:52 AM
@ mantis.
You think tom should be banned?
How would that help people get their money back?
As fat as I know, no one has been banned for griimming on blonde.
Not sure really, just trying to work out who the villains are.
Maybe the guy posting about knocking in the money and then jumping on the tikay betting thread to chat about bets and rolling around the forum as normal is questionable, but suppose it's your job to decide. Just seems saying bad things is a greater offence than actually doing bad things around here. I am surprised that stealing money from a group of fellow blonde members has never been a banning offence though, not even restriction of the staking priviledge. But if you say Thatcher was ok or somebody's mark-up is too high mods run around with their skirts in the air. What's all that about?
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