Sky 30NL, J9 sooooooted

[kano]

Really interesting charts, need a bit of time to have a good look at them. What is the red colour coding? Did you produce these yourself, or are they part of a group effort?

i made the ranges for ps and they got a professional illustrator to put them into sexy articles in german and then in videos, i can share the content in month or so when its translated.

red colour coding is interesting

it means some percentage of the time call, some percentage of the time raise, range protection basically.

the way i do it is if i have ad or kd in the aa or kk combos then i flat and if not then i be aggressive, it means that i can control my frequencies.

MORRRREEEEE

[tikay]

Like Honeybadger says, this is not a standard UTG open.

And tbh even the best winning regs are probably not actually winning much (longterm) from opening something as weak as J9s.

Interesting that Pat says he would open it as he told me his UTG range was 77+, AJs+, KQs+ as most of our profit at these stakes is not from UTG.  It's going to be from late position hands played well, stealing, restealing and bombing off weak ranges vs people that peel pre and flop weakly.

Giving me hasstle for something I may or may have not done live is clearly irrelevant, most of my experience online has been at this level and I would be looking for information about villain specifically to work out river action.  Vs some a shove will be terrible and vs some its mandatory.. readless it probably can't be terrible, but what some aren't pointing out/ realizing is that a lot of players at this level just won't be calling 3 bullets with one pair (clearly some will but not as many as you'd think).

My understanding is that no software works on sky, one guy made some and he was banned and they blocked that as well i think. - TK?
Agree with Alex on turn size, 11>16 does seem better than 9, however I don't think its a big deal...

The ACTUAL line is that third party software is NOT permitted, & that won't change in the foreseeable future, in fact, ever.

From time to time folks try to circumvent it by cobbling together Heath Robinson style homemade software. It generally gets spotted pretty quickly, & then it is easy to introduce code to road-block it. If someone has recently produced something, it is news to me, it'll be stopped soon enough, but guerilla style attacks will continue. The policy is quite clear, we don't think it is beneficial to the site, & we won't permit it, such as we are able.

[tikay]

My understanding is that no software works on sky, one guy made some and he was banned and they blocked that as well i think. - TK?

Think the official line is they "Don't support" any software, and will ban anyone caught using it. There is software which works on Sky out there, although I don't use it for obvious reasons.

5 handed, we make a fairly standard raise to 90p with from UTG as it looks pretty and we can print money against Villain 2 post flop.

Should emphasise that "UTG" is actually the hijack as we are 5 handed - Probably should've put "Hijack" instead of UTG to avoid any confusion, so apologies.

Idk if this affects people's opinions on whether or not we should actually be opening J9s or not from this position?

Andy, I'd rather we had this duscussion in private, as you can say what you want, whereas I need to be a little more discrete.......

But no, that is NOT the official line. I'm not aware that ANYONE has been banned for USING it, the corrective action takes place upstream - the product is rendered ineffective by a coding tweak, & the supplier/maker/software writer is dealt with as appropriate.

Can we take it to PM if you wish to debate further, please? Thanks.

[jgcblack]

Ah, sorry didn't mean to make it sound incorrect.

Long as it works for you, Scotty says its a great place to play.

[SuuPRlim]

I agree with you Melissa.

Wow. Stu agreed with me once, wasn't about a poker hand though was about a takeaway order but it's still a great great feeling

[tikay]

Ah, sorry didn't mean to make it sound incorrect.

Long as it works for you, Scotty says its a great place to play.

No worries John, I think you were only repeating a commonly held misconception. I saw a very similar thing on 2+2 last week.

In the cold light of morning, my Post does look a bit ranty, but it was not intended to be.

I am currently ensconced in the worlds worst hotel room ( by some distance) and my mood is grumpy, veering livid, outlook poor. (Shipping Forecast speak).

[jgcblack]

Ah, sorry didn't mean to make it sound incorrect.

Long as it works for you, Scotty says its a great place to play.

No worries John, I think you were only repeating a commonly held misconception. I saw a very similar thing on 2+2 last week.

In the cold light of morning, my Post does look a bit ranty, but it was not intended to be.

I am currently ensconced in the worlds worst hotel room ( by some distance) and my mood is grumpy, veering livid, outlook poor. (Shipping Forecast speak).

I will happily bander back and forth with you about poor quality hotel rooms....

A personal favorite coming to mind was when I had to change rooms a few times because of how bad x or y was in the room.  But on the 3rd room I was 'happy' to accept that in this room it 'only' dripped oil and smelly liquid from the air conditioning and only had a handful of cockroaches in the bathroom.  This was a significant improvement from the previous choices.

[Evilpengwinz]

Ah, sorry didn't mean to make it sound incorrect.

Same here, apologies.

No worries John, I think you were only repeating a commonly held misconception.

I think that is because whenever there's a thread about HUDs on the forum, it almost always gets snap locked with a "Sky Poker does not support 3rd party software" message. That's why I thought that, anyway.

[tikay]

Ah, sorry didn't mean to make it sound incorrect.

Same here, apologies.

No worries John, I think you were only repeating a commonly held misconception.

I think that is because whenever there's a thread about HUDs on the forum, it almost always gets snap locked with a "Sky Poker does not support 3rd party software" message. That's why I thought that, anyway.

No worries Andy.

They get locked for a reason, Andy. There is always a reason for everything. Not always best to show one's hand........

Third Party Software is NOT permitted there, & never will be. It is inevitable that from time to time, there will be attempts to circumvent this, it is a game without end. 

Happy to discuss it via PM if you wish.