Dusk Till Dawn Partner with FIDPA

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Dusk Till Dawn Partner with FIDPA

Dusk Till Dawn is pleased to announce their official partnership with FIDPA, the Federation Internationale De Poker Association.

Dusk Till Dawn will use FIDPA’s International Poker Rules for all of its poker events including the inaugural ISPT held at Wembley Stadium on May 31st 2013.

The International Poker Rules are the brainchild of Dutch professional poker player, Marcel Luske, who has spent the last two years consulting experienced poker players, tournament directors and staff from around the globe. The result is a concise, clear and detailed set of poker rules that can be adopted internationally by poker venues and event organisers. The goal is to ensure poker is played under a consistent set of rules regardless of the tournament, venue or country, something that poker players around the world have been requesting for some time.

Simon Trumper, ex professional poker player and now Live Poker Director at Dusk Till Dawn, believes this is a step in the right direction for the poker industry. “I have never spoken to a single poker player that didn’t want a uniform set of poker rules wherever they play. As part of
the process, FIDPA has consulted some very experienced poker minds, the vast majority of individuals involved in creating The International Poker Rules are well respected poker players with extensive knowledge of the game, between them all I would expect almost all poker
situations and rulings to have been covered.”

Dusk Till Dawn joins other high profile poker venues such as The Bellagio Las Vegas and Holland Casino Amsterdam in adopting The International Poker Rules. Please see www.fidpa.com for further information and endorsements from high profile players and tournament organisers from around the world.

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http://www.marcelluske.com/index.php?b=Player+Letter

Marcel Luske talks about FIDPA and its role going forward



the rules themselves can be found at http://fidpa.com/

[EvilPie]

Chances of rule 11 being enforced are pretty much zero. Hope it is though.

[pleno1]

Rule 11 is a joke would cause outrage, can see the rules have been set by a over 50 guy.

I kid I kid.

[Royal Flush]

What is rule 11?

[CHIPPYMAN]

What is rule 11?

No mobile phone on the table . If u use it, u get penalty !!

[Royal Flush]

Ha figured out how to read rules, wow that is a huge step backwards. Tournament organisers were trending the other way, i would hope this is something we could ask DTD/Simon to look at before implementation?

[Woodsey]

If i couldn't use my i-pad i don't think I'd ever play live poker again, I'd be bored shitless, I'd rather just stay in bed for a kip!

[pleno1]

not only no devices, but it has to be switched off

[claypole]

Yeah pretty ridiculous to be honest...its not like it 1999 and with so many hybrid devises just a nightmare to enforce - how they know my ipad is 3g enabled lol.  Its ludicrous - saying you cant have a phone switched on even is a joke, some people need to take calls etc even if its away from table etc, children, business, relatives.  Absolutely stupid

[Boba Fett]

The player who made the last aggressive action must show their hand first. (a call is not seen as an aggressive action ).

In situations where all players have checked the last betting round, the player to the left of the 'dealer button' must show first, and this showdown shall continue in a clockwise direction.

All players in the hand are entitled to see ALL other hands at Showdowns.

Players not in the hand at Showdown situations can always request to see a player's winning hand, which MUST be tabled at all times at Showdowns.

Not a fan of this at all.  If Im reading it correctly, it means there is no "last man standing rule" and the winner of the pot must show.  If 1st to showdown mucks and you are the only player left in the pot, I dont think you should have to show at all.  If you HAVE to show then I think 1st to showdown should be forced to show and be completely unable to muck (which I think is a bad idea but is fair).

I also think its ridiculous that OOP has to showdown 1st if there is no action on the river completely disregarding action on previous betting rounds.  Can anyone tell me how this makes sense as opposed to last aggressor in the entirety of the hand having to showdown 1st even if there are no aggressive actions?

[George2Loose]

2 years?

[robyong]

Relax guys. Simon will respond, as I understand it we have opted out of 5 or so of the FIDPA rules, these are the rules that DTD would like to see changed. Simon can be more specific in his reply. FIDPA (headed up by my close friend Marcel Luske CEO) has brought together a number of people and organisations to work towards an agreed common set of rules across the world, we 100% buy into this idea, but there are further stages to work through to find a common ground, our stance will always be for the player, so clearly we would never adopt Rule 11 (this drove me mad at the EPT to have to keep my phone/ipad below the table, and also drove the dealers mad as no players were paying attention to antes/blinds etc). Sorry, this should have been explained beforehand. To make this 'common rule' thing work we have all signed up to the concept/idea (DTD/Bellagio/Holland Casino etc) - this is stage 1, but we expect rules to be refined over next 12 months as more partners join FIDPA and Marcel initiates more discussion. Simon represents DTD on the FIDPA rules panel. ISPT Wembley will use the FIDPA rules apart from the 5 or so rules that we have opted out of, which as part of the Gambling Comission rules, will be clearly displayed and available to players at the ISPT.

Cheers Rob

[pleno1]

Isnt the whole point that its one set of rules, its not really partnering if you change 5 rules, its just a "DTD have new rules"

Agree Marcel v nice guy and great ambassador though.

[The Firm AB]

Relax guys. Simon will respond, as I understand it we have opted out of 5 or so of the FIDPA rules, these are the rules that DTD would like to see changed. Simon can be more specific in his reply. FIDPA (headed up by my close friend Marcel Luske CEO) has brought together a number of people and organisations to work towards an agreed common set of rules across the world, we 100% buy into this idea, but there are further stages to work through to find a common ground, our stance will always be for the player, so clearly we would never adopt Rule 11 (this drove me mad at the EPT to have to keep my phone/ipad below the table, and also drove the dealers mad as no players were paying attention to antes/blinds etc). Sorry, this should have been explained beforehand. To make this 'common rule' thing work we have all signed up to the concept/idea (DTD/Bellagio/Holland Casino etc) - this is stage 1, but we expect rules to be refined over next 12 months as more partners join FIDPA and Marcel initiates more discussion. Simon represents DTD on the FIDPA rules panel. ISPT Wembley will use the FIDPA rules apart from the 5 or so rules that we have opted out of, which as part of the Gambling Comission rules, will be clearly displayed and available to players at the ISPT.

Cheers Rob

Another point here is that poker really does need to start working with companies outside the industry to broaden the appeal to a wider audience and new players. Sponsors will not be interested in a business that does not have a common set of rules - so its great for the game to have an international framework in play and gaining adoption in different countries.