12bb btn jam, sb calling range?

[cambridgealex]

No need for full HH-

6max, not itm, btn jams 12bbs, we have 37bbs in sb, bb has 25bbs.

Btn is bad overly aggro reg, playing 31/24/15.

Calling range?

[PathFinder]

Hmmm due to stats and description of villian K9+ QJ+ A7+ 33+

I wud prefer the middle - top of this range as the bottom range is a little more marginal but don't think it's tres awful

[Young_gun]

ill go for 99+ A10 personally , KQ suited is pretty sexy too

[cambridgealex]

calling all suited aces here guys?

[SuuPRlim]

Bram's your man.

[outragous76]

calling all suited aces here guys?

yes

[Rexas]

Why 33+? If we're calling with 33, we should be calling with 22. In my mind, 88+, A8+, suited Ax hands, k10+

[paulhouk03]

Antes?

[cambridgealex]

Est his range to be this sort of thing 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J5s+,T6s+,95s+,85s+,74s+,64s+,54s,A2o+,K2o+,Q7o+,J7o+,T8o+,98o,87o

we're calling 11.5bbs to win 12+0.5+1+1 so 14.5 so we need 44.2% equity to b/e.

BB calls behind with 99+AJ+ ish (5%) so considering that and preserving stack etc, we'd rather have about 50% equity.

Which means we should call roughly: 33, A2s, A5o, K9o, K7s, QJo, QTs.

Seems on the lose side, but would only slice one/two hands of each group in game.

I called A3s and it felt looseish. Wouldn't have called K9s or A6o though.

[outragous76]

pairs less than 77/88 don't feel good to me

[cambridgealex]

Why 33+? If we're calling with 33, we should be calling with 22. In my mind, 88+, A8+, suited Ax hands, k10+

No, because he's shoving 22 which 33 dominates. He's also shoving A3 and K3 with 33 dominates. They are pretty significantly different. In fact, the maths shows that 22 is a fold and 33 is a call vs a standard shoving range.

[cambridgealex]

pairs less than 77/88 don't feel good to me

33+ is fine
   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    50.307%     49.69%    00.62%        3629784624     44987094.00   { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J5s+, T6s+, 95s+, 85s+, 74s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K2o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o, 87o }
Hand 1:    49.693%     49.08%    00.62%        3584930052     44987094.00   { 33 }

[cambridgealex]

even vs a pretty tight range 33 is a call. Pairs have such massive equity in allins.

[outragous76]

Yeah but there is no need to push the absolute margins in these spots.

We must also take the view that there is an element of risk behind as well, and all our Ax hands cover this margin of risk (vs the like of KK), where as the 33 part of our range is just crushed.

[cambridgealex]

Yeah but there is no need to push the absolute margins in these spots.

We must also take the view that there is an element of risk behind as well, and all our Ax hands cover this margin of risk (vs the like of KK), where as the 33 part of our range is just crushed.

Taken that into account:

BB calls behind with 99+AJ+ ish (5%) so considering that and preserving stack etc, we'd rather have about 50% equity.