Main event fml spot vs Jake Cody

[SuuPRlim]

i refer to previous point.

We're all folding QQ to a blind ALL-IN the first hand the tournament, but we;re all happy to 3b/5b jam AKs vs an UTG open/4b from the only other good player at the table?

first person to explain this to me wins a pack of Haribo, one of the big ones.

[celtic]

i refer to previous point.

We're all folding QQ to a blind ALL-IN the first hand the tournament, but we;re all happy to 3b/5b jam AKs vs an UTG open/4b from the only other good player at the table?

first person to explain this to me wins a pack of Haribo, one of the big ones.

Normal haribos or tangfastics?

[stato_1]

i refer to previous point.

We're all folding QQ to a blind ALL-IN the first hand the tournament, but we;re all happy to 3b/5b jam AKs vs an UTG open/4b from the only other good player at the table?

first person to explain this to me wins a pack of Haribo, one of the big ones.

Because Jake will be folding a decent %. Not that I am folding QQ to a blind all in anyway.

[MANTIS01]

i refer to previous point.

We're all folding QQ to a blind ALL-IN the first hand the tournament, but we;re all happy to 3b/5b jam AKs vs an UTG open/4b from the only other good player at the table?

first person to explain this to me wins a pack of Haribo, one of the big ones.

I would venture that once we call the 4bet and go to the flop we lose this pot about 100% of the time unless we hit. I would suggest that calling oop vs a better player with a much bigger stack to hit cards is a pretty shitty plan. It's a much better plan to win the pre-flop war with AK vs the best player because his range to 4bet us is the widest, he will be the one at the table considering the stacks and the tough spots it generates for us when he 4bets, so he won't need AA/KK to do it, and we have blockers to those combos. Even if we hit villain can get away or still have us crushed with AA/KK.

Alternatively jamming wins us the dead money a lot of the time or we can flip which means we win the whole pot a lot of the time. Not wanting to jam first with good FE because we don't want to flip vs this player is the mistake because 50% equity is a good coup for us. FWIW i'm happy peeling the open too but once I 3bet I would expect a 4bet and I must look to win the pre flop war with a great pre flop hand because the alternative, as we have seen, is a pretty shitty plan.

Jamming AK all-in is a better feeling and easier to do than calling QQ all-in, and don't forget first hand of wsop ME we are all scared and talking about shoes
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Do they do just the fried eggs? If they do i'll have bag of fried eggs pls.

[rfgqqabc]

i refer to previous point.

We're all folding QQ to a blind ALL-IN the first hand the tournament, but we;re all happy to 3b/5b jam AKs vs an UTG open/4b from the only other good player at the table?

first person to explain this to me wins a pack of Haribo, one of the big ones.

"We??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?"

Peeps be wrong technically but have their own reasons which is obv a okay!

[SuuPRlim]

OK, OK.

ClickClickClick.

[biggy333x]

jus reading pha like this shows the diff between elite players and the rest. JC wins a fair size nsd pot prob with T4 or other junk. On the way he's got a guy in knots with AKhh and prob owned the table full of rec players all day if one of the competent players at the table gets premium hands and is in bits how to play it vs him.

[pez102]

Prob flat pre, as played id fold to 4 bet, doubt he's ever light,I'd imagine his range is kk+ with the chance of qq. Hand plays badly against his range.

[action man]

fuck me a simple preflop spot gets 10 pages?? either im way behind or we just click/call??? anything bar a click/call pre doesnt show jake enough respect
rofl at everyone wanting to flat and play a flop vs a really fucking clever player instead of just taking the preflop edge we have with AKs?  
have the results been posted or am i going crazy? obv how the hand played out jake has him crushed but wtf? who in actual time doesnt click/call this? or just jam

[Pinchop73]

fuck me a simple preflop spot gets 10 pages??

 

[action man]

even when everyone thinks poker is getting tougher you get people overcomplicating and overthinking hands, thus turning it softer. weird

[SuuPRlim]

even when everyone thinks poker is getting tougher you get people overcomplicating and overthinking hands, thus turning it softer. weird

Not really been over-complicated here imo, the 3bet is undoubtedly bad (there been a few longish posts explaining why its bad) and the discussion is what to do now we've been 4b. Some people think its a jam, some people think it's a fold, some people are saying well we're getting 5-1 nearly even OOP might be worth flicking a call in and seeing what flops. Not that un-common for a collection of people to think 3 different things about a "deep-stacked" spot...

That aside you are correct lol

[RED-DOG]

even when everyone thinks poker is getting tougher you get people overcomplicating and overthinking hands, thus turning it softer. weird

Yes but now you're simplifying and uncomplicating it, thus making it harder again.