Athletics Thread

[Alverton]

Aikines-Aryeete for the 3rd spot for me.  Gemili in the 200 as that's the race he's run the A standard and only the 7th fastest brit this year over 100m.  Lewis-Francis has had his time in the sun, and will be remembered for holding off Greene but shouldn't get the nod ahead of the younger guys.  Gemili would've probably run his fastest time on Saturday with the fast track.  He should've been there anyways,  if theres any doubts about your selection then you turn up and beat the other contenders.

They should really win a medal in the relay. 

Nice for UK Athletics having selection troubles, especially in the sprints.   

Not sure I how I feel about Gay right now.  I always liked him and his attitude.  I hated how he finished 4th behind Gatlin last year.  No excuses, obv, but to run incredible times the past 5 years which were never good enough, must have been frustrating as hell.  Might just have pushed him over the edge.        

[kinboshi]

Not just the 100m but without doubt that is both the marquee event of any meet and where most high profile failures have been

But the reality is 100m also equals 200m and long jump

Really? 

You can also put EVERY throwing event into the list

You can?

So that leaves long distance running and some jumping events.

Yes, if you ignore the short and long hurdles, the 400m, the 800m, the 1,500m, the steeplechase...

I'm fairly sure that there was high profile failures in both Decathlon and Heptathlon within the last 5 years.

Can't remember any in the decathlon (off the top of my head), but there was one in the heptathlon.  Hardy ruined it though, as shown by the interest in Ennis and Kluft before her.

But the simple fact remains, that in the hierarchy of drug failures (especially high profile ones) athletics is heavily smeared.

Mmm, sponsors are paying more and more in athletics. The BBC has committed a large chunk of money and resources to covering athletics from this season (riding the wave of the Olympics obviously) in this country, the Grand Prix prize-monies are larger than they've ever been.  Seems to be thriving despite being 'heavily smeared'.

Anyway, if you don't have an interest in athletics, you don't have to read the thread

[kinboshi]

Aikines-Aryeete for the 3rd spot for me.  Gemili in the 200 as that's the race he's run the A standard and only the 7th fastest brit this year over 100m.  Lewis-Francis has had his time in the sun, and will be remembered for holding off Greene but shouldn't get the nod ahead of the younger guys.  Gemili would've probably run his fastest time on Saturday with the fast track.  He should've been there anyways,  if theres any doubts about your selection then you turn up and beat the other contenders.

The question is was he told/advised by GB athletics to go to the U23 and miss the trials?  If that's the case, he shouldn't be penalised for missing it.  As you say, he's got the 200m and would be in the relay anyway, so they might leave him out of the 100m knowing he'll have a chance to run it many times in the future.  But I do think there's an argument for his inclusion.

They should really win a medal in the relay. 

On paper, definitely.  There's that baton issue though...

Nice for UK Athletics having selection troubles, especially in the sprints.   

Got issues in a number of events, and it does bode well for athletics here.

Not sure I how I feel about Gay right now.  I always liked him and his attitude.  I hated how he finished 4th behind Gatlin last year.  No excuses, obv, but to run incredible times the past 5 years which were never good enough, must have been frustrating as hell.  Might just have pushed him over the edge.         

He was so any-Gatlin that makes it a surprise that he's had a positive result.  Blaming a coach or whoever is no defence though, and its very disappointing.  This season he was head and shoulders ahead of the others, and it was making it interesting for the Worlds to see if the others would catch up and over-take him or not.  Unfortunately, that's irrelevant now.

[Woodsey]

lol at the noob running 9.91  

[kinboshi]

lol at the noob running 9.91 

Noob? 

[Tal]

The Jamaican sprinter is Powell.

[outragous76]

With the greatest if respect Dan, you are a skilled debater, but thats the problem, you are missing the key fact that every time there is a positive test it massively affects the sport.

You think a failed test by someone outside the top 3 of an event doesn't matter? Really?

I used to love cycling (I cycled everyday age 9-16) and now I can barely be bothered with it.

When people are asked to commit their own time to a sport or past time, whether that be participation or watching, they need to know what they are watching/involved with is real/fair. The more and more that positive tests are exposed the more damage it creates (despite a degree of reassurance that they are catching culprits).

Its the the issue of the Spanish Doctor (is he called Michelle Ferarri or something), a man who has knowingly assisted people who he refuses to testify against, and there is significant speculation that he assisted a "high profile Spanish Tennis player". Its just damaging all round.

 

[kinboshi]

With the greatest if respect Dan, you are a skilled debater, but thats the problem, you are missing the key fact that every time there is a positive test it massively affects the sport.

You think a failed test by someone outside the top 3 of an event doesn't matter? Really?

I used to love cycling (I cycled everyday age 9-16) and now I can barely be bothered with it.

When people are asked to commit their own time to a sport or past time, whether that be participation or watching, they need to know what they are watching/involved with is real/fair. The more and more that positive tests are exposed the more damage it creates (despite a degree of reassurance that they are catching culprits).

Its the the issue of the Spanish Doctor (is he called Michelle Ferarri or something), a man who has knowingly assisted people who he refuses to testify against, and there is significant speculation that he assisted a "high profile Spanish Tennis player". Its just damaging all round.

 

Sorry, was just demonstrating why this thread was a good idea

[kinboshi]

The Jamaican sprinter is Powell.

What's been announced, or are they waiting for the B sample?

[outragous76]

and what about the female shot putter who failed a drugs test at the Olympics because she couldn't get her cock in the test tube  

[Woodsey]

lol at the noob running 9.91 

Noob? 

So you are saying you are not surprised at his time? He has never run under 10 secs before, he's been on the club circuit for a while but his massive improvement raises eyebrows at the minimum. Faster than Bolt this year  

[kinboshi]

lol at the noob running 9.91 

Noob? 

So you are saying you are not surprised at his time? He has never run under 10 secs before, he's been on the club circuit for a while but his massive improvement raises eyebrows at the minimum. Faster than Bolt this year 

I've already mentioned the surprise at his time.  Was just questioning the use of the word 'noob' for someone who's been competing for 7 years.  I also mentioned that his career has been hampered by injuries and he's brought in a new coaching team to help him overcome these.  He's improved his PB from 10.05 to 9.91, is that absolutely impossible to do off the back of injury-free training (and better coaching)?

How much quicker do drugs make 100m runners? 

[Woodsey]

lol at the noob running 9.91 

Noob? 

So you are saying you are not surprised at his time? He has never run under 10 secs before, he's been on the club circuit for a while but his massive improvement raises eyebrows at the minimum. Faster than Bolt this year 

I've already mentioned the surprise at his time.  Was just questioning the use of the word 'noob' for someone who's been competing for 7 years.

That makes his time even more surprising as far as I'm concerned, the sudden and dramatic improvement.

[Woodsey]

How much quicker do drugs make 100m runners?  

lol, u want a number? Who cares, faster than they were before 

[kinboshi]

How much quicker do drugs make 100m runners? 

lol, u want a number? Lots is enough I would think.......

OK.

So answer my next question.  Being able to train injury-free, in addition to a much better coaching setup - how much quicker does that make a 100m runner?