PLO 6 cards, any1 flat here with nuts on the turn

[77dave]

Ha, you & me too.

He rarely seems to lose when I play him. There's a thing.....

I certainly got the impression when he plays "Live" that he is a winning player, & I've known him for many a year.

Nice lad, too.  

i have been trying to get him to post here for a while. tbh dave its been reading your posts which has convinced him to post. i showed  him your blog and a few plo hands from pha and thats why he decided to post.

im sure he will post a lot more hands and will add a lot to the pha boards.

[CHIPPYMAN]

I think u just cost  yourself $1150 for playing that hands . Raising  pre and calling 3bets !  Once u saw the flopped , there's no way u folding .

[rfgqqabc]

Would the people folding pre open on the button? fwiw I fold pre too. The guy 3bet ds kings oop too, pretty dam frisky.

[CHIPPYMAN]

Would the people folding pre open on the button? fwiw I fold pre too. The guy 3bet ds kings oop too, pretty dam frisky.

It's because he's playing Omaha Hi-Lo  . Not even wAnted to play that hand in normal PLO . It's got nothing to do win button .

[rfgqqabc]

Would the people folding pre open on the button? fwiw I fold pre too. The guy 3bet ds kings oop too, pretty dam frisky.

It's because he's playing Omaha Hi-Lo  . Not even wAnted to play that hand in normal PLO . It's got nothing to do win button .

But the most frequent time we will be able to make someone fold, which is where we make our profit, as LilD alluded to earlier, then the most common spot for that is raising the button. I've long been a believer in minning virtually atc/any four in tournaments, but this is a cash game and a touch different.

[Honeybadger]

Think it might be a marginally profitable open on the BTN, as much as anything because you win the blinds a % of the time. But make no mistake about it, this is a total trash hand at 6 card PLO. Got to be folded in the CO. I'd sooner take 6 random cards out of the muck and open them blind than open this hand.

The guy who 3bet the trashy KKxxxx out of position when deep has made an even worse mistake though. Just suicidal to do that.

As played I disagree with Lil'Dave about the need to raise the flop. I don't mind flatting the flop planning to jam a blank turn. I realise this is a bit old school, but then 6 card PLO plays a bit old school! In these spots sometimes it makes sense thinking of top set no extras as a drawing hand - you are drawing to either a pair up or a blank on the turn.

[redsimon]

Would the people folding pre open on the button? fwiw I fold pre too. The guy 3bet ds kings oop too, pretty dam frisky.

It's because he's playing Omaha Hi-Lo  . Not even wAnted to play that hand in normal PLO . It's got nothing to do win button .

Its PLO hi?

Interesting hand though, pretty much a bag of spanners pre flop

[pleno1]

fucking stupid game!

[77dave]

fucking stupid game!

thats where the skill comes in, so many people are dismissive of this game it carries a greater edge than most games.

[chnren]

Folding preflop is def the way it should play, i mean i would not raise for that hand first, and especially sb reraise, it is clearly folding here, i was on tilt, and when i m on tilt, i play a lot worse than that, thanks for advice everyone, my question is, how many players would fold on the flop (i wouldnt personally, even i m not on tilt, i am not saying folding is terrible), and what is the best play on the turn. Flat or raise, how many cards he can hit at the river, i think fold turn is not an option here, flat may be the best way to play it, since no matter what river come, he gonna pot it anyway. and we know he is on the big draw there when we got top set and all the pair.

[Dubai]

I actually think playing bat insane aggro when we are 300bb deep against similar stacks is a really profitable strategy that people adjust dreadfully against in 6 card plo. They still think its correct to only 3b really small ranges and stack off incorrectly postflop because they are against "the maniac"- plus we can win so many pots postflop where our ranges run so much better on certain boards than the nits

[Dubai]

Takes people way outside their comfort zone and they make massive mistakes because of it . Obv nothing to do with this hand

[CHIPPYMAN]

Think it might be a marginally profitable open on the BTN, as much as anything because you win the blinds a % of the time. But make no mistake about it, this is a total trash hand at 6 card PLO. Got to be folded in the CO. I'd sooner take 6 random cards out of the muck and open them blind than open this hand.

The guy who 3bet the trashy KKxxxx out of position when deep has made an even worse mistake though. Just suicidal to do that.

As played I disagree with Lil'Dave about the need to raise the flop. I don't mind flatting the flop planning to jam a blank turn. I realise this is a bit old school, but then 6 card PLO plays a bit old school! In these spots sometimes it makes sense thinking of top set no extras as a drawing hand - you are drawing to either a pair up or a blank on the turn.

Agreed totally .

[CHIPPYMAN]

Would the people folding pre open on the button? fwiw I fold pre too. The guy 3bet ds kings oop too, pretty dam frisky.

It's because he's playing Omaha Hi-Lo  . Not even wAnted to play that hand in normal PLO . It's got nothing to do win button .

But the most frequent time we will be able to make someone fold, which is where we make our profit, as LilD alluded to earlier, then the most common spot for that is raising the button. I've long been a believer in minning virtually atc/any four in tournaments, but this is a cash game and a touch different.

I also agree with Dave but in this situation I won't open the button to win $6 from the sb&bb . If its a must to open a button , are going to open if u are dealt to set of trips in ur hands pre and call a 3bet even though u in position?

[GreekStein]

Honeybadger and Dubai nutted it.

The guys making all the money in the 6 card PLO atm on FTP are AmexCeturion and another one who's name I forget - they play exactly like David Shallow says.

As for this hand, I'm usually flatting flop and getting it in on safe turn.