PLO 6 cards, good/bad spot to check raise with blocker this hand?

[chnren]

Full Tilt Poker Game #33108111555: Table Skyline (6 max) - PL 6 Card Omaha Hi - $2/$4 - 20:45:45 WET - 2013/08/12 [15:45:45 ET - 2013/08/12]
Seat 1: hero ($378)
Seat 2: fightforit ($430.50)
Seat 3: NASDAq SPb ($400)
Seat 4: MrLongterm ($188.50)
Seat 5: fishycall ($595.90)
Seat 6: ReydelMundo ($353)
MrLongterm posts the small blind of $2
fishycall posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [ ]
ReydelMundo folds
hero raises to $12
fightforit calls $12
NASDAq SPb calls $12
MrLongterm folds
fishycall calls $8
*** FLOP *** [ ] (Total Pot: $50, 4 Players)
fishycall checks
hero checks
fightforit checks
NASDAq SPb checks
*** TURN *** [ ] [] (Total Pot: $50, 4 Players)
fishycall checks
hero has 15 seconds left to act
hero bets $42
fightforit calls $42
NASDAq SPb calls $42
fishycall folds
*** RIVER *** [ ] [] (Total Pot: $176, 3 Players)
hero has 15 seconds left to act
hero checks
fightforit bets $105.60
NASDAq SPb calls $105.60
hero raises to $324, and is all in

[Ironside]

OTR is a disaster spot
on turn i might check raise

[chnren]

OTR is a disaster spot
on turn i might check raise

thx, man, i think check raise on the turn is def good play, i mean much better than check call......

[chnren]

fightforit has 15 seconds left to act
fightforit has requested TIME
fightforit has timed out
fightforit folds
fightforit is sitting out
fightforit has returned
NASDAq SPb folds
NASDAq SPb adds $159.60
Uncalled bet of $218.40 returned to 0409479
hero mucks
hero wins the pot ($489.80)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $492.80 | Rake $3
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: hero collected ($489.80), mucked
Seat 2: fightforit folded on the River
Seat 3: NASDAq SPb (button) folded on the River
Seat 4: MrLongterm (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: fishycall (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: ReydelMundo didn't bet (folded)

[77dave]

Which player did you think had the best hand out of the river bettor and the caller.

how often do you think you would get this raise through?

[chnren]

Which player did you think had the best hand out of the river bettor and the caller.

how often do you think you would get this raise through?

That is a good question, TBO, i bluff on spot like this many many times, sometimes costs a lot money though, i dont even know if i make profit or not for those hands i played like that, but i do get paid sometimes since people know i am able to do that bluff, i think if the player behind fightforit didn't call, i would fold, since he called, i snapped raise, cos neither of them gonna think i bluff here, as i said, you get called a lot as well, all you need is looking for sb is good enough to fold their hand.   ps: i dont know who got the best hand there, properly fightforit

I post this hand is because i don't wanna post all the hand i lost,  i played bad , or bad beat stories, i will mix them up, few players may say i am showing off bluff, whatsoever, as i said, i got called a lot as well, if i post those hands i got called, you would say how bad i play, again, as i said, i will mix them up.

[Dubai]

You have the best hand when they fold a decent amount of time. Hate the line once you have checked the flop, love it if you actually have queens full as they don't fold a hand that beats Kings up when you take this line

[chnren]

You have the best hand when they fold a decent amount of time. Hate the line once you have checked the flop, love it if you actually have queens full as they don't fold a hand that beats Kings up when you take this line

Thanks dubai, with top pair and pair k blockers, betting flop is standand (if it is hu , def cbet), cos no matter what come to complete the str8, you can always bet with nut str8 blockers again, but personally i don't like betting in 4 ways on flop on this situation, i check to see how the action goes, if player behind bet any amount near pot, and got called by any1, i can just fold my hand easily,  i prefer to get a free card here in 4 ways . it is interesting that same hand can play so many different ways.

[Dubai]

Yes but u can't now rep top boat on once u check flop

[chnren]

Yes but u can't now rep top boat on once u check flop

i am second to act in 4 ways, there are still 2 players behind, it is resonable to check with top set here i think.

[Dubai]

I've already said I like showing up with Queens full with this line, but thats because people won't fold worse boats or 3xxxxx IMO

[SuuPRlim]

very risky! It's kinda sick actually I mean how the hell can you not have it?! Thing is though they are getting a really really sick price, it seems unlikely fightforit has QQQ or JJJ, 3333 seems possible but I think it's quite likely nasdaq has a 3. He's betting into a player who can DEFO have a FH (I think his VB range is  Q3+ OTR) the play is much better is fightforit is a good player and nasdaq is weaker. the best hand Nasdaq can have here is 666, he'll prolly call that but he can have just a random 3 and fold it a decent amount prolly, if he has a 3 it takes a LOT of fightforit FH combo's out.

I think nasdaq had the best hand out of the three of you.

[Steve86]

It's not actually that sick - the way it has been played there is no way either players have qq/jj
Who checks flop with a set there and then doesn't raise the turn? Real nice play though, not many of the 2/4 regs see the game like this.
Nasdaq has 3456 a lot here, he's already shown he's weak by just calling the river. I miss playing with you chnren

[chnren]

It's not actually that sick - the way it has been played there is no way either players have qq/jj
Who checks flop with a set there and then doesn't raise the turn? Real nice play though, not many of the 2/4 regs see the game like this.
Nasdaq has 3456 a lot here, he's already shown he's weak by just calling the river. I miss playing with you chnren

it seems many of you know me, but i am newbie here,  know nobody, oh sry, properly few, i am so interested to know who you are, my boy.......

[tikay]

It's not actually that sick - the way it has been played there is no way either players have qq/jj
Who checks flop with a set there and then doesn't raise the turn? Real nice play though, not many of the 2/4 regs see the game like this.
Nasdaq has 3456 a lot here, he's already shown he's weak by just calling the river. I miss playing with you chnren

it seems many of you know me, but i am newbie here,  know nobody, oh sry, properly few, i am so interested to know who you are, my boy.......

I miss playing with you too!

Especially when you keep bluffing me.....

Seriously, I find you very hard to play against, you apply a lot of pressure, all the time.

Hope you are well.