I Like Learning My PHA Lessons the Hard Way

[RED-DOG]

What is an M of 2 plz?

Basically number of orbits left taking into account blinds/antes. Think it usually equates to c. 3 BB.

So you will blind down to 3bb?

Is this just when laddering?

[claypole]

Hate jamming 0/10

Call probably most optimal 7/10

Like 4 bet/folding player dependant and with smaller open making 4 bet nearer to 6.5bigs - especially against a random who is less likely to put you in a coffin with hands like A2hh and will have a pretty tight 5 bet range. Think you probably achieve same as a jam, which I think is awful. 6-8/10 depending on dynamic and player

Fold - can never be awful but nitty so 4/10

[outragous76]

Maybe ICM was important here !

You committed ICM suicide, welcome to the club! We have all been there!

There was a Simon Deadman quote which really rang true to me (I think in his well), which went something along the lines of (when talking about closing live MTTs)

Its not necessarily about making the technically correct play, its about making the right plays to give yourself a chance of winning the tourney   - I para-phrase because I can remember it exactly

[WotRTheChances]

call ainec

I was thinking this too

Calling is obv fine

I just think at this stage of the tourney "spots" are just as important as holdings. Im not suggesting 4b for value, im suggesting 4b the spot.

Wouldnt 4bet as a bluff in this spot with this hand. You're chosing a terrible hand to do it with. It's a hand clearly good enough to peel with and you have 0 blockers, only advantage is if you get hood peeled you have reasonable equity vs his range, but not a fan. If I 4-bet this spot i'm 4-bet calling, but i'm just peeling the 3-bet and I don't think it's very close at all.

[pleno1]

4b-6b, lego

4b folding is abs ridic for no blockers reasons and just randomly thinking lol we have a pair, oh he must have a higher one. we literally 4betting millions of combos if we 4b fold 88, just gimme k2 or a4 innit.

doesnt matter anyway, its all rigged.

[TL900]

4b-6b, lego

in a £50 live tourney?

fold 3/10

jam 5/10

4b 2/10

call 9/10

[Honeybadger]

Don't understand the couple of mentions that you have made implying that you think folding and showing gets you 'nit points' that will give you a beneficial image in the future.

Seems pretty clear to me that you should never show 'big laydowns' in tournaments. It does not give you a strong image, it gives you a weak image. And it will inspire other players to have shots at you, since you have shown you can lay down a hand. Worst thing that can ever happen is some tight, scared money guy who never makes a move plucks up the courage to bluff you because he sees you showing a big fold.

Best image to have in the latter stages of a tourney is that of a player who will make spite calls/jams vs other big stacks. A kamikaze player who commits ICM suicide, but will take someone down with him. Difficult to achieve this image without actually making these bad calls, but avoiding ever showing a big lay down must be the first step towards this.

[theprawnidentity]

My ICM consideration here would be less than 0.

I think I agree with flatting too but I dont think its great if opp is gonna play aggressive enough post flop.  Given the tournament, he probably isn't, so I like more than jamming / folding / clicking.

[Honeybadger]

Lol. You're supposed to APPEAR suicidal without actually being suicidal!

[theprawnidentity]

Lol. You're supposed to APPEAR suicidal without actually being suicidal!

You can take a sick angle shoot by playing anything from THIS list, and then 'accidentally' unplugging your headphones so it goes on to loud speaker.

[AlexMartin]

Lol. You're supposed to APPEAR suicidal without actually being suicidal!

haha

im thinking 4b call for combination poker+ life ev is the best option.

[lucky_scrote]

Your stack is amazing, please don't go mental in these spots. MR pre and then peel the 3bet. There are so many reasons to do that. If the SB is mental then you win the planet when you flop an 8. If he isn't mental then you're more likely to get to showdown which is good.

There are some shorties left on your table, of course ICM is a factor with 11 left. You have to take ICM seriously at all times!